Why Shouldn’t The Real Estate Investor Go With The Interest Only Loan? ‘Cuz

Posted @ 1:41 am - Filed under 1031 Exchanges, Real Estate Investing, Purposeful Planning, Weekend Thoughts, Financing, Retirement Income, Buying Income Property, Investment Lessons, Capital Growth, BawldGuy Axiom

Here’s a poser for ya. This question comes up all the time, ‘cuz folks seem to ‘know’ one way’s better than the other most of the time. Problem is they almost always pick the wrong one. It usually arises when we’re talkin’ about income and expenses — you know, the month in, month out operations of income property.

Here’s the question — usually posed in such a way indicating the obvious answer.

Short Pause For A Note: There’s no way I’m gonna get a cool photo for this, so I’m just winging it with whatever strikes my fancy. I like cool pics, don’t you? Besides, it’s the weekend.

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Isn’t an interest only loan a much better way to go when compared to an amortizing loan? You save all that money over the holding period, right? That really adds up. Well, usually not, sorry.

The last comparison I did was about a week ago, and it came out about 2 to 1 against interest only. Why? Simple — The money they saved in monthly payments over a 5 year holding period was around $7,000 using the interest only approach. The principal pay down of the loan balance over the same period using an amortizing loan was just over $14,000 — about twice as much.

Now I now what’s goin’ on out there, so please, step away from the calculator.

Look at it the Purposeful Planning way. At the end of the holding period you have just under $7,000 in additional cash flow banked. An amortizing loan costs a tad more monthly, but it makes more in yield while in the loan. Ah, run that by me again, wouldya? Sure. If the interest rate is 6%, every dollar alloted to the principal is a dollar on which you’re no longer paying that 6%, right? Right. Is the bank giving you 6% on your piddly little break even cash flow? Stop laughing.

Fast forward to your net proceeds at sale, 5 years down the road. Let’s say you originally bought 4 small properties requiring a loan of about $200,000 give or take each. In 5 years you now have just over $70,000 additional net equity to exchange — tax deferred mind you — into around an extra half a million or so worth of property.

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Do that over the next 20 years? You’ll have acquired $2-4 Million in ‘extra’ property. The investment lesson to learn here is this — remain prudent, but don’t save nickels and dimes while sacrificing hundred dollar bills. At a modest 6% yield, that $2-4 Million means your retirement income will have been improved by roughly $10-20,000 — wait — here it comes — a month.

BawldGuy Axiom: More is better than less. Sooner is better than later. Best of all? More sooner is much mo betta.

Now yer talkin’. Add all that extra equity buying extra properties over a 15-30 year time span, and you can readily see how your net worth and subsequently your retirement income are maximized. Some folks have come to call this Purposeful Planning. :)

So tell me again how interest only loans are so much mo betta?

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25 comments to “Why Shouldn’t The Real Estate Investor Go With The Interest Only Loan? ‘Cuz”

Robert D. Ashby on April 19th, 2008 at 6:39 am said:

  • Bawldy - Don’t get me wrong as I agree with you 100%, but what about using an IO to cash flow more properties, thus expanding your RE portflio sideways immediately, instead of down the road? Just curious what your opinion is on this one. I look forward to your answer.

Joshua on April 19th, 2008 at 9:38 am said:

  • Good question Robert. I would like to hear the answer as well.

BawldGuy on April 19th, 2008 at 1:22 pm said:

  • Guys — I like your thinking, but the difference in payments is usually not enough to allow additional properties to be purchased. When the neg-am loans were in line with reality, then what you guys suggest worked incredibly well.

    Cash flow and available investment capital are almost always stand alone issues.

    The examples I was using assumed 10% down payments — decent leverage. If the budget is, say $100K for down and closing costs, the difference in annual debt service has to be very significant to be able to successfully acquire an extra property.

    Still, if you’re putting 10% down already, are you gonna put less down on the extra property? Not if you’re my client. :) I draw the line at 10% down.

    If you’re putting 20% down, you might combine the lower payment of an IO loan with a lower down payment to shoehorn yourself into that extra property.

    On the other hand, if the properties rationally generate anticipated appreciation, but the interest only makes the difference between affording to own 4 instead of 3, then interest only would be the way to go.

    That doesn’t happen very often in my experience. In fact, I’ve not run across it in the last few years.

    It almost always comes down, not to how many properties, ‘cuz that almost never changes. It will come down to cash reserves, comfort zone, and understanding the big picture. The extra property(s) will come in when the investor executes their initial tax deferred exchange and finds they have enough extra proceeds via principal reduction to acquire 1-3 more properties than if they’d opted for an IO loan.

    Make sense?

Joshua on April 19th, 2008 at 2:51 pm said:

  • Thanks for the follow-up! Makes sense now.

BawldGuy on April 19th, 2008 at 2:56 pm said:

  • Glad I could help, Joshua.

Robert D. Ashby on April 19th, 2008 at 3:49 pm said:

  • Bawldy - Thanks for expounding on the issue. You hit all of the points I wanted to know with that response and I still agree, 100%.

BawldGuy on April 19th, 2008 at 6:57 pm said:

  • One in a row for the Bawld One. :)

Genuine Chris Johnson on April 21st, 2008 at 5:38 am said:

  • One of the things that I’ve learned to spot because of you is the people that didn’t go berserk and buy too many properties with too little knowlege during the good times. I stopped taking investment loans altogether because of the imprudence of all of the investors…and the entitlement attitude.

    (i.e. will you do my loans for free, or (b) I’m at a closing table and I expect everyone to fork over 2k.)

    And yet, if I found a guy like you (or likely the guys you work with), I’d probably be cheerfully rendering good service.

    ~Chris

Jon Treon on April 21st, 2008 at 6:51 am said:

  • Guys,

    I’m a broker outside Boston, MA and am doing some investing myself. I see you talking about 10% down payments. Is that still going on in your area? Around here, it’s difficult to get financing with less than 20-25. It’s doable, but the interest rates are killer, affecting the cash flow. Any thoughts you can share?

David Shafer on April 21st, 2008 at 4:19 pm said:

  • The I/O loan has one basic advantage. Added cash flow flexibility. In other words if you want to make principal payments you choose how much and when. And when you do make those payments your required payments go down. It is ideal for those who have varied income or who get annual bonuses for their residential property.
    The main disadvantage is the interest rate is higher than a amortizing loan. The calculus should go like this: do I desire more control over my principal payments enough to pay the extra cost?
    Pretty simple. If you have enough reserves for your investment property to cover emergencies like new roof, lack of renters for several months, etc. then you probably don’t need an I/O. If you are running a little lean on the reserves, then it might behoove you get the I/O loan and build up the reserves. If you work for Wall Street and get a six figure bonus at the end of the year then you might consider the I/O and make principal payments once each year.

BawldGuy on April 22nd, 2008 at 7:02 pm said:

  • Chris — It’s gotta be difficult for mortgage brokers to figure out who knows how much about investing. Fresh from seminars, infomercials, and/or the latest ‘how to’ book, they quickly scurry to whatever it is that floats their boat.

    I agree your best protection is to work with RE brokers like myself, who actually know which way is north on the map without looking. :)

    On the other hand, I’ve heard stories from investors who ran into mortgage guys like yourself, who refused as policy to work with them. I’ve always responded by telling them they probably ran into someone with a conscience still able to function. :)

BawldGuy on April 22nd, 2008 at 7:08 pm said:

  • Jon — The only thing going for 10% down in San Diego is a used Toyota. :) The real estate requires 30-40% down to break even.

    The regions supporting low down payments are far from Boston and San Diego, that’s for sure. I’ve found areas with solid locations, quality construction, and rents/vacancy rates sufficient to support the low downs.

    We’re both in No Man’s land when it comes to our areas, that’s for sure.

    Don’t be a strager, OK?

BawldGuy on April 22nd, 2008 at 7:22 pm said:

  • David — No arguments.

    The investor going for the lower payments of an IO loan due to low or non-existent reserves (Sominex Account) wouldn’t be working with me. The Sominex Account is for my sleep too. :)

    The big wage earner has the choice, but sometimes it just doesn’t matter, due to his ability to cover any surprises.

Pat on April 23rd, 2008 at 8:29 am said:

  • Great post. We have a large number of first time investors entering the market in the Central Valley. Banks are requiring a minimum of 15% down. Good news is the investors can actually have a positive cash flow.

BawldGuy on April 23rd, 2008 at 10:04 am said:

  • Thanks Pat — That’s gotta be good news for the entire local economy there. It’s interesting though about the 15% requirement. I’ve not seen that before.

Christine on April 23rd, 2008 at 3:21 pm said:

  • I appreciate your followup with regards to the idea of using IO to purchase additional properties.

Jon Treon on April 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm said:

  • Thanks, Bawld Guy. I’ve got to start doing my homework and find alternative places to invest in. There are areas locally where the numbers are starting to work, but the properties are generally 19th century vintage with lead paint, etc.

BawldGuy on April 24th, 2008 at 4:19 pm said:

  • Jon — It’s my guess even the properties you deem to be ‘working’ require so much ongoing attention, as to make the investment a gigantic pain in the endus rearimus. :)

    Bite the bullet and get away from the local stuff. In the long run, you already know you’ll do better.

Jon Treon on April 24th, 2008 at 4:30 pm said:

  • Bawld Guy- Any suggestions?

Brett Noel on May 10th, 2008 at 6:53 pm said:

  • What do you think about tax Lien Certificates as Investments at 16% Return

BawldGuy on May 10th, 2008 at 7:04 pm said:

  • Brett — I’ve watched various states and their approach using this method. The common thread is 16% is offered outright due to the relatively high risk level. Still, with experience and expertise one can do well, as long as they clearly know the areas in which they’re investing.

    To date, I’ve no first hand empirical evidence of anyone consistently making significant money with tax lien certificates. Again, that in no way implies some aren’t cleaning up. I just haven’t run into them yet.

Sam Perchik on May 17th, 2008 at 11:53 am said:

  • I could’t find a lender that will accept less than 25% down on 5+ units. Do you know of lenders that will accept less?

BawldGuy on May 17th, 2008 at 12:02 pm said:

  • Sam — Lenders for 5+ units have been passive/aggressive for years now. Many offer down payments as low as 15% (or used to) but by the time they’ve applied their ‘impossible dream’ parameters to the subject property, 15-20% morphs into 25-40%.

    High DCR’s (debt coverage ratios) are the biggest party poopers. Requiring a property to produce more than modest cash flow with a low down is tough in most areas.

    I don’t know, to answer your question, any lenders who’ve been funding loans using under 25%. That said, there have to be a few lenders who are. There almost always are.

    Sorry I can’t be of more help, Sam.

Sam Pritchard on June 9th, 2008 at 12:25 pm said:

  • Hi Bawld Guy. I understand your point on a 5 year investment strategy, but if you shorten the holding period, isn’t there a point beyond which you don’t pay down enough principal on the fixed mortgage to make a difference versus the IO, for example 1 year or shorter? I would think this is particularly true of a flip, in which the holding period is only a few months (hopefully).

BawldGuy on June 9th, 2008 at 1:22 pm said:

  • Sam — Your point is excellent and correct much of the time. A one year hold? The tradeoff for the pennies in principal pay down aren’t nearly as nice as the holding costs savings with the IO loan.

    You’ll get no argument from me. Great point, Sam.

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