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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-9026</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Kenneth -- Thanks so much for coming. It's always nice to get backup from ground zero. :)

Please, don't be a stranger, ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth &#8212; Thanks so much for coming. It&#8217;s always nice to get backup from ground zero. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Please, don&#8217;t be a stranger, ok?
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		<title>by: Kenneth Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-9025</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>very interesting topic, I've been traveling the blogosphere trying to read up on other real estate opinions on local market conditions.  This about sums up the current trend across the globe.  I've noticed the same indicators in the Dallas Fort Worth Market.  Lots of savvy investors are taking advantage of some of the best market conditions to build the real estate portfolio.  I've noticed a sharp increase in investor activity in the local DFW market.  Most investors I've run into live in the New York or Cali area.

I've come across many articles that put Dallas in a place much better than most larger urban areas as far as depreciation and loss in home sales, due in most part to the steady appreciation Dallas has experienced over the past several years.  Areas such as California have shot up so quickly and significantly, the current foreclosure and mortgage crisis combined with other less than desirable market conditions has placed cities in these states in compromising situations where they are vulerable to a bust in the real estate bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting topic, I&#8217;ve been traveling the blogosphere trying to read up on other real estate opinions on local market conditions.  This about sums up the current trend across the globe.  I&#8217;ve noticed the same indicators in the Dallas Fort Worth Market.  Lots of savvy investors are taking advantage of some of the best market conditions to build the real estate portfolio.  I&#8217;ve noticed a sharp increase in investor activity in the local DFW market.  Most investors I&#8217;ve run into live in the New York or Cali area.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come across many articles that put Dallas in a place much better than most larger urban areas as far as depreciation and loss in home sales, due in most part to the steady appreciation Dallas has experienced over the past several years.  Areas such as California have shot up so quickly and significantly, the current foreclosure and mortgage crisis combined with other less than desirable market conditions has placed cities in these states in compromising situations where they are vulerable to a bust in the real estate bubble.
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-8724</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Are comments accepted on Redfish?</description>
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		<title>by: &#187; The Contrarian Multifamily Investor Part 1: To Be or Not To Be&#8230; Redfish Emerging Markets.com: Helping Good Investors Make Better Decisions</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-8719</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] We’ve enjoyed reading of late a blog called The BawldGuy Talking – written by Jeff Brown of Brown and Brown in San Diego.  Jeff posted a thoughtful and insightful post last week about why people should be thinking about the hardest hit markets around the country.  Without putting words in his mouth, I think based on his post and subsequent discussion that he agrees there are some lessons to be learned and some potential pearls of great value to be gleaned from some of the most troubled markets around the country.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] We’ve enjoyed reading of late a blog called The BawldGuy Talking – written by Jeff Brown of Brown and Brown in San Diego.  Jeff posted a thoughtful and insightful post last week about why people should be thinking about the hardest hit markets around the country.  Without putting words in his mouth, I think based on his post and subsequent discussion that he agrees there are some lessons to be learned and some potential pearls of great value to be gleaned from some of the most troubled markets around the country.  [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-8716</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Works for me, Mark.</description>
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		<title>by: Mark McGlothlin</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-8712</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jeff, you are very correct in your assessment of the Texas economy.  It's now a far cry from the energy sector dependency of the 80's (think Houston's bust two decades ago);  Texas has led the nation now for 6 years in a row in manufacturing exports.  If you look at the leading markets in terms of job growth in each of the 11 DOL supersectors, Texas cities make up a very impressive part of the top 20 in almost every category.  Their state tax free environment breeds high property taxes, but is very attractive to lots of businesses and folks near or in retirement.  It's not perfect down there but the growth in the Lone Star state is dynamic, broadly based, and accelerating.  

And yes, I'd love to chat this week;  I'm tied up almost all of Monday but I'll track you down later in the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you are very correct in your assessment of the Texas economy.  It&#8217;s now a far cry from the energy sector dependency of the 80&#8217;s (think Houston&#8217;s bust two decades ago);  Texas has led the nation now for 6 years in a row in manufacturing exports.  If you look at the leading markets in terms of job growth in each of the 11 DOL supersectors, Texas cities make up a very impressive part of the top 20 in almost every category.  Their state tax free environment breeds high property taxes, but is very attractive to lots of businesses and folks near or in retirement.  It&#8217;s not perfect down there but the growth in the Lone Star state is dynamic, broadly based, and accelerating.  </p>
<p>And yes, I&#8217;d love to chat this week;  I&#8217;m tied up almost all of Monday but I&#8217;ll track you down later in the week.
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		<title>by: Jeff Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-8676</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Very cool -- keep me in the loop, and tell your dad BawldGuy said hi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool &#8212; keep me in the loop, and tell your dad BawldGuy said hi.
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		<title>by: Chris Lengquist</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-8675</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh, I noticed the Cooper.  I just figured it was a nod to those of us cool enough to drive one.  ;)

I'll be in Charlotte for a few days in the end of June.  My dad lives there.  I'm always amazed at Charlotte's strong job growth, affordable housing (certainly by east coast standards) and infrastructure.  I may be doing a little research between beers and hamburgers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I noticed the Cooper.  I just figured it was a nod to those of us cool enough to drive one.  <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be in Charlotte for a few days in the end of June.  My dad lives there.  I&#8217;m always amazed at Charlotte&#8217;s strong job growth, affordable housing (certainly by east coast standards) and infrastructure.  I may be doing a little research between beers and hamburgers.
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		<title>by: Jeff Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/why-san-diego-california-real-estate-investors-should-care-about-the-hardest-hit-markets/#comment-8674</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Investor -- My last 'boots on the ground' survey showed even Tempe to be a tad weak on rents. Not real weak, but touchy nonetheless. 

The supply of new condos bought by those amateurs you mentioned are now for rent, competing like crazy with the predictable consequences. 

Texas? I dropped the fence 'cuz their fundamentals changed radically. Nobody familiar with the various areas can say their job market is not very diversified now, and that job creation isn't pretty impressive. 

Texas has now become a destination state. I'm a strong advocate as a result of these basic, but hugely positive changes. 

The character of Texas has evolved big time. I'm definitely a bull, and not many were harder sells than I was, that's for sure. 

1. Job creation is strong and growing. 

2. Job diversification is now very impressive and statewide in nature. The Texas of today isn't much like it was 20 years ago. 

3. The population is now also undergoing a change -- more and more they're transplants. Folks are moving their on purpose, and smiling. 

4. The state itself and the cities/counties are massively pro business which is now being reflected in the billions pouring in because of it.

5. Ironically, it reminds me of San Diego a little bit, after we lost two huge employers in the middle of the S &#38; L crisis. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise, as we're now far more diversified in our employment, and not nearly as vulnerable to problems in defense spending for instance. Texas is making itself far less open to problems in energy than in years past. Investors have seen this and responded with pictures of dead presidents. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investor &#8212; My last &#8216;boots on the ground&#8217; survey showed even Tempe to be a tad weak on rents. Not real weak, but touchy nonetheless. </p>
<p>The supply of new condos bought by those amateurs you mentioned are now for rent, competing like crazy with the predictable consequences. </p>
<p>Texas? I dropped the fence &#8216;cuz their fundamentals changed radically. Nobody familiar with the various areas can say their job market is not very diversified now, and that job creation isn&#8217;t pretty impressive. </p>
<p>Texas has now become a destination state. I&#8217;m a strong advocate as a result of these basic, but hugely positive changes. </p>
<p>The character of Texas has evolved big time. I&#8217;m definitely a bull, and not many were harder sells than I was, that&#8217;s for sure. </p>
<p>1. Job creation is strong and growing. </p>
<p>2. Job diversification is now very impressive and statewide in nature. The Texas of today isn&#8217;t much like it was 20 years ago. </p>
<p>3. The population is now also undergoing a change &#8212; more and more they&#8217;re transplants. Folks are moving their on purpose, and smiling. </p>
<p>4. The state itself and the cities/counties are massively pro business which is now being reflected in the billions pouring in because of it.</p>
<p>5. Ironically, it reminds me of San Diego a little bit, after we lost two huge employers in the middle of the S &amp; L crisis. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise, as we&#8217;re now far more diversified in our employment, and not nearly as vulnerable to problems in defense spending for instance. Texas is making itself far less open to problems in energy than in years past. Investors have seen this and responded with pictures of dead presidents. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Another Investor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Jeff:

I'm not sure what you mean by "when rents come back" in Phoenix.  Rents and tenant quality went down and vacancy went up in 2004 through mid 2006, when anyone with a pulse could (and did) buy a house.  Rents started to come back in late 2006, although not in a straight line.  Rents generally went up in 2007, and have pretty much stabilized at their old levels.  A few places have done better - think Tempe and a few other close in locations with the schools and amenities folks want.  

If you are thinking of rents as a percentage of value, the price drops have helped the ratio.  However, I haven't seen one percent per month since sometime around late 1997 and I don't expect to see it anytime soon.  Rental vacancy rates are down, but there are still too many amateur landlords out there betting on appreciation and not worrying about cash flow.  In addition, a lot of tenants will become buyers again as prices and financing availability stabilize.

I have to say I'm surprised you dropped the fence around Texas and are now the "Texas Evangelist."  To me, Texas is like Florida - wildly cyclical.  I still see most cities in Texas as having undiversified economies with no physical or governmental limits to growth.  Can you be more specific in identifying the factors that changed your mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;when rents come back&#8221; in Phoenix.  Rents and tenant quality went down and vacancy went up in 2004 through mid 2006, when anyone with a pulse could (and did) buy a house.  Rents started to come back in late 2006, although not in a straight line.  Rents generally went up in 2007, and have pretty much stabilized at their old levels.  A few places have done better - think Tempe and a few other close in locations with the schools and amenities folks want.  </p>
<p>If you are thinking of rents as a percentage of value, the price drops have helped the ratio.  However, I haven&#8217;t seen one percent per month since sometime around late 1997 and I don&#8217;t expect to see it anytime soon.  Rental vacancy rates are down, but there are still too many amateur landlords out there betting on appreciation and not worrying about cash flow.  In addition, a lot of tenants will become buyers again as prices and financing availability stabilize.</p>
<p>I have to say I&#8217;m surprised you dropped the fence around Texas and are now the &#8220;Texas Evangelist.&#8221;  To me, Texas is like Florida - wildly cyclical.  I still see most cities in Texas as having undiversified economies with no physical or governmental limits to growth.  Can you be more specific in identifying the factors that changed your mind?
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