What’s Black & White And Better All Over Than A 401(k)?

Posted @ 11:13 pm - Filed under Financial Planning, Purposeful Planning, Retirement Income, 401(k)'s & IRA's

fork in the roadThe short answer is F.I.U.L. or Fixed Indexed Universal Life. (Yeah, as in life insurance.) It’s not really used as life insurance, though that’s one of its benefits. It’s great for a second basket to complement retirement income generated by your real estate portfolio.

You are, whether you want to or not, at a fork in the road. Do you take 401(k) Drive, or F.I.U.L. Boulevard? Here are some thoughts for you to ponder. The road you take will quite probably make the difference between a retirement income, and a RETIREMENT INCOME. I’m not talking about the difference between $3,000 and $5,000 a month. I’m literally talking about retiring on an after tax income of 2-5 times what most folks ever make while working full time before taxes. This shouldn’t be a difficult decision.

What’s an F.I.U.L.? It’s known generically as investment grade insurance. Big help, huh? Compare it to your 401(k) which takes your money annually, allowing you to avoid (defer) taxes on each year’s contribution, until you retire. At that point you begin taking money out on which to live. The money you take out is taxable at normal income tax rates.

If you’re relatively young, allow me to predict your future. Eventually, you won’t be able to get enough……..tax free income. Relax, this is a normal life progression — or at least that’s what they taught me at analysis 101-103. :)

The F.I.U.L. also takes periodic payments, but instead of using before tax money, payments are made with after tax money. There’s no tax deferral for payments made into a F.I.U.L. When you retire, you take money out on which to live, just like you would with your 401(k). There’s a huge difference at this point. The income is 100% tax free for life.

Over time your cash value and the death benefit grow nicely. When you die, your heirs pay no, nada, nil, as in zero taxes. Generally speaking, this amount is not only massively larger than what your heirs would net after tax from your 401(k), but it’s also pretty likely it will be a much larger sum than the 401(k) was before estate taxes. :)

This post isn’t meant to give the richly detailed substance of both approaches. My goal here is simply to touch on the substantive differences between the two approaches.

  • The 401(k) contribution is tax deferred while the F.I.U.L. is not.
  • Distributions from your 401(k) are taxable at prevailing income tax rates — F.I.U.L.’s are tax free.
  • Upon your death the estate taxes will decimate your 401(k) — F.I.U.L.’s aren’t even part of your estate, and therefore not subject to tax.
  • Need emergency cash? 401(k)’s will cost you in taxes, and sometimes penalties. F.I.U.L.’s? No payback, no taxes, no…….nothin’. Just take the money — it’s yours.

What if, at 25 you began putting $500 a month into an F.I.U.L., and you do it until you’re 65, what do you think the result might be?

Over $200,000 a year income, tax free, for life.

Your 401(k) would have to generate about $300,000 a year income to equal that, because it’s subject to income tax. And that’s assuming rates don’t go up — not a smart bet at this point, believe me. To generate that much income you’d obviously have to invest way more than the $500 monthly.

Are you starting to see a trend developing here? :)

This is all in preparation for a post I’ll be publishing at BloodhoundBlog next Monday on this very subject. There have been some folks who have taken umbrage with my claims. My numbers are not my own. I’ve consulted with an expert, who uses numbers generated from proprietary software custom made for the $600 Billion company who specializes in F.I.U.L.’s. (Aviva Inc., who recently purchased Indianapolis Life.)

For those really, really picky folks, the software provider is Aviva–Fiserv 2.90.0.20.

They pay out the annual dollars, death benefits, and cash values I’ll be talking about, (including the $200,000 mentioned above) based upon their own in-house analysis. Their software reflects this.

The 25 year old I used above as an example, is my own daughter. She’ll be 23 this month, and is currently finishing up her degree in child development. This means she won’t be making huge paychecks any time soon. She’ll probably never earn six figures in a year. But by putting in a lousy $500 a month for 40 years, she’ll retire with over $200,000 a year in retirement income — none of it subject to income tax. Even if she never owns a home, never invests in real estate, (fat chance :) ) never owns one stock or bond, or wins a bet at the race track, she’ll retire better than most folks who did all those things, by far.

Now, imagine a Purposeful Plan that incorporated investment real estate and an F.I.U.L. policy. Imagine 20 years of real estate investments that merely did ok, relatively speaking. If she didn’t buy her first investment property until she was 30, by the time she was 50 she’d be working by choice — probably well before that. Being more conservative than I am usually, she’d likely have a minimum of $10,000 tax sheltered monthly income by that time. She’d then limp along on that modest sum ’till she was 65, whereupon she’d begin collecting the aforementioned additional $200,000 a year.

cruise ship at night

Between her real estate net worth, and her F.I.U.L. cash value, she’ll be worth no less than $2-4Million when she’s 50, and at least $10Million at 65. Her income at 65 will no doubt exceed $30,000 monthly, the vast majority of it either tax sheltered or tax free. And because of her genes, she’ll probably live to at least her mid-90’s, maybe longer. And she’ll have that incredible income the whole time.

Her peers who decided to go with the good ole 401(k)? They’ll be able to go on cruises with her — as long as she’s buying. :)

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14 comments to “What’s Black & White And Better All Over Than A 401(k)?”

Chris Lengquist on July 4th, 2007 at 6:38 am said:

  • Your bookshelf is interesting. I’m re-reading the first one to make sure I didn’t miss anything.

bawldguy on July 4th, 2007 at 10:35 am said:

  • You’re over 40, with four kids Chris, and it’s time you begin the transition to the second book. :)

Chris Smith on July 6th, 2007 at 2:19 pm said:

  • I’m confused … I thought it was part of your estate when you own it. Yes, when you die life insurance does pay out income tax free, not estate tax free, only if your estate is subject to estate taxes. There will eventually be taxes to be paid. There will be earnings on these invested dollars, theyare tax deferred, when you initially start drawing income from it, one of the benefits of life insurance is the tax concept first in first out, (FIFO) the first thing you put in is premiums, the last thing put it is interest earnings. SO
    initially you will draw out your premiums, which is your money after taxes, eventually you will have to draw out your earnings and monies will then be taxable. There is a concept call MEC, Modified Endowment
    Contract, it limits the amount you can put into a life policy or the FIFO concept goes away and they it’s Last in, first out, LIFO, which means your initial income would be taxable until you spent all the earnings then it would become tax free because of your return of premium. To avoid this MEC issue, you need to buy a lot of life insurance, for a 25 year old probably more then 1,000,000 in death benefit. If anyone saves $500 a month for 40 years it will be worth 3.1
    million at 10% rate of return, at 12% it is 5.9 million at 8% it’s 1.7 million. Take a 6% distribution rate on the 3.1 million and that equals $186,000 annual income without too much concern you would ever lose money. However, you still have to pay the cost of insurance, if my mutual fund earns 10% my underlying investment account, (a mutual fund
    in a variable life policy) also earns 10% but now also has to pay the cost of the death benefit for the life insurance which is at a minimum of 10% of the investment dollars, example: $100 investment earns 10% equals $110 at the end of the year, if you have 10% coming out to pay cost of insurance, $100 = $90 grows 10$ equals $99, so it takes a while
    to build up assets, next year the $99 becomes $108.9 but the new premiums are still 99 for a total of $207.90. Compare with the 401K or mutual fund, year 2 you are at $110 plus 10% is $121 and first year money is worth $110 for a total of $231. It makes sense to use investments for investment reasons and life insurance for life insurance
    reasons. Yes, there may be a tax benefit, who know how long that loophole will be open and it may not even work out because of the hirer cost of the life associated with the investment along with who knows what tax laws will be when we retire.

bawldguy on July 6th, 2007 at 2:31 pm said:

  • Chris - Thanks for your comment. According to the experts who back these accounts with their own cash, i.e. Indianappolis Life, and their new owner, Aviva, you are incorrect.

    The Fixed Index Universal Life (investment grade) policy is not part of your estate, and therefore not taxed. The reason many think it would be part of the estate, is becasue they don’t know how to property structure it in the beginning to qualify for such treatment.

    The income is tax free, and the heirs do NOT have to pay taxes, as they will when they inherit 401(k)’s.

    Your logic is the perfect illustration of not knowing what you don’t know.

    That said, I guess I’ll now be forced to get into the mind-numbing boredom of the actual tax structure itself.

    It’s just like anything else. I just attended a memorial for one of my best friends. Afterwards I was approached by an old friend and her new husband. They’d just sold their Yuma investment home for a tidy little profit, and wanted my advice as to where to put their ‘tax deferred’ funds. Their funds weren’t tax deferred by anyone’s definition, because they’d already closed their sale, deposited their check, and begun receiving interest for Heaven’s sake!

    They didn’t know what they didn’t know. They weren’t happy campers once they realized what they’d done.

    It’s about the structure and following the IRC guidelines.

    Thanks for nothin’. :) And please come back Chris.

Chris Smith on July 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pm said:

  • That’s why we ask the questions.

bawldguy on July 6th, 2007 at 3:03 pm said:

  • Your question was so good, you’ve inspired a post — thanks again Chris.

TJ on July 26th, 2007 at 11:51 pm said:

  • “But by putting in a lousy $500 a month for 40 years, she’ll retire with over $200,000 a year in retirement income — none of it subject to income tax.”

    I’d love to see the illustration generated to show this.

TJ on July 27th, 2007 at 8:40 am said:

  • Well, I got curious so I ran an illustration for the AIG IUL policy…no way to make it work @ $500/mo in for 40 years and $200,000 per year out for life. Now, I know AIG’s IUL policy isn’t the best performing (i.e. conservative), but is Indy Life’s that much better? Maybe I should get appointed with them so I can run an illustration. As I said earlier, I’d love to see the assumptions at work to make this happen.

BawldGuy on July 27th, 2007 at 9:19 am said:

  • TJ - Call your local planner. Make sure he is an expert on the subject.

    My job isn’t to convince you TJ - it’s to make you aware of a potential option. If you don’t believe it, don’t do it.

BawldGuy on July 27th, 2007 at 9:58 am said:

  • TJ - I have your emai, and with your permission, I’ll forward it to my expert. He’ll then contact you can ask him the appropriate questions. I’m confident he’ll be able to clear things up for you.

TJ on July 27th, 2007 at 10:32 am said:

  • Sure, have him contact me. Jeff, keep in mind that I am not totally opposed to this strategy, I’ve actually sold a few of these policies myself so I know the right way to structure them. The thing is, most illustrations are bogus pieces of c**p that have nothing to do with reality.

    When you factor in the potential problems created IF the COI gets out of control AND/OR the performance (especially in the later years) lags, the risks sometimes outweigh the potential rewards.

BawldGuy on July 27th, 2007 at 10:42 am said:

  • TJ - I’ll have him contact you. He’s currently floating around in the Med - and didn’t even ask me if it was ok. :)

    Do you consider yourself an expert on FIULs?

TJ on July 27th, 2007 at 10:58 am said:

  • An expert? Well, I wouldn’t consider myself an expert (I’ve been told that “expertise” requires some 50,000 hours of experience depending on the area of study!), but I’d venture to guess that I know more than the average consumer.

    I’ve been in the financial services business for about 2 1/2 years and in that time I’ve written a fair share of insurance policies (of all types). In that same time, I have gone through enough professional development and read enough actual policies to understand the “moving parts” that make them tick. I know the details of the “investment strategy” that the insurance companies use to “link the crediting method to an index”. I also have a good handle on the pitfalls of the “indexed” (UL or annuity) products.

    So, does that make me an “expert”? Not by my definition, but I do know something of which I speak.

    By the way, I typically prefer VUL to FIUL policies when cash value policies are indicated, but that is a topic for another day.

BawldGuy on July 27th, 2007 at 11:16 am said:

  • Thanks TJ

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