What’s An Aggressive Real Estate Investment Strategy? According To Whom?

Posted @ 11:22 am - Filed under Real Estate Investing, Check This Out, Retirement Income, Sominex Account, Communication

Had an interesting conversation today with a very cool client. suspendersShe’s a first grade teacher here in town. At 50ish (for a couple years now) her only retirement is a semi-worthless annuity, and a relatively handsome pension from her ‘teacher’s fund’.

She’s gonna be buying some income property, almost a million bucks worth. The contracts are signed, and the lender dude, some guy with suspenders, from Philly, says she’s good to go. The transactions are structured as follows.

  • 10% down payment + reduced closing costs, as she’ll receive credits
  • Fixed rate amortizing loans at 6.25-6.5% +/- .25%
  • Close analysis shows each property pays for itself easily, plus a little cash flow
  • She’ll max out on tax shelter — resulting in about $625/mo. tax savings
  • She has a Sominex Account (Ambien for those under 40) of over $40,000 — all of it liquid. Don’t forget her worthless (her words too) annuity, which could fetch, after penalty, another $40,000 or so.

    what's the point

    The point — points?:

    Four small and well located income properties, all with itty-bitty cash flows. Between the four of them she’ll receive roughly $4-5,000 a year — or not as the case may be. When cash flow is that close to the bone we usually say break even to a trickle.

    The maximum tax shelter allowed by the IRC. She’ll increase her take home pay by $500 monthly almost immediately by increasing her exemptions at work.

    Over the five years or so she may hold them, her loan balances will have been reduced over $55,000.

    Note: We tell all of our clients to condition themselves to respond to the words ‘break even’ by saying to themselves — Liar! This underlines the real world truth, that no matter how conservative we are in projecting income, expenses etc., nobody is so good they can predict cash flow to the dollar. That’s what you do when you say a property breaks even — Liar! :)

    She had it in her mind I was being relatively aggressive with my approach to her retirement. Why? Cuz I told her so. Apparently telling women over 50 you’re being aggressive tends to stick. :) She was getting a tad nervous. Of course she was. Her investment guy needs to choose his words much more carefully.

    It reminds me of what Dad used to say on the subject. “Sometimes folks put the emphasis on the wrong syl-LA-ble.

    Effective communication can at times appear to mimic a minefield of potential misconnects. If the speaker or the listener put any particular word or concept in a an unintended context — the rest of effective communicationthe conversation potentially becomes virtually moot. It’s my experience the 80/20 rule applies. That is, 80% of the time it’s really nobody’s fault. Hundreds of ‘postmortems’ performed on what I’ve come to refer to as communication train wrecks, happen when all parties had great intent, and were paying full attention. Human beings aren’t computers. Context is the wild card. While everyone’s busy nodding their heads in agreement, one is seeing a picture of sunlight while the other is painting a picture of rain clouds. It happens.

    It took a few minutes explaining — again — about what was happening, and what she could expect. She then returned the lender’s phone call, and proceeded to have the same conversation with him. She was calmed by his words, especially as they were layered in her mind over the words she’d just heard from me.

    Words mean things, and even when they’re taken somewhat out of context, it’s up to the pro to ensure there’s total understanding of that context. Of course, in reality that is, in the real world, Mission Impossible. Communication is never perfect on a good day. These things happen from time to time. You say one thing to someone and they hear another. It happens.

    Over the years I’ve been able to keep miscommunications — outgoing and incoming — to a minimum. Yet it still occasionally happens.

    I tell this story to remind you how easily this can happen. Fortunately, this turned out to be a minor episode. Uh, that would be minor in the larger context, but no doubt not minor at all to her. Words do have meaning, but if filed under an erroneous context, it’s possible to find ourselves traveling entirely different roads than those with whom we’re communicating. birds looking at kid

    Think of times in your lives when you’ve said or done something while holding a picture in your mind of the context you envision. The kicker is, life often throws us into circumstances in which the context or ‘picture’ isn’t quite what we’re expecting.

    How many times have we all done this with our husbands or wives? I rest my case. :)

    This is why double and triple checking to ensure understanding at every turn is the only way to fly. It’s still not foolproof, but it beats the alternative. We all wanna be understood — and we all need to feel we understand what we think we’re hearing. :)

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    6 comments to “What’s An Aggressive Real Estate Investment Strategy? According To Whom?”

    Brian Brady on January 16th, 2008 at 12:53 pm said:

    • How is positive cash flow, with a fully-amortized loan, aggressive?

      (That’s what I asked)

      The strategy appears aggressive until you realize that the rental income could pay off the home, albeit over a 30 year period, but it services the debt, nonetheless.

      Let me digress to my old training. If you could buy bonds with and 8% yield, and borrow money, locked in at 7%, why wouldn’t you borrow as much as possible.

      The financing strategies we’re pursuing in TX are awfully “old skool” but they’re working…REALLY well.

    BawldGuy on January 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pm said:

    • The best move I made in ‘07 without a doubt was bringing Brian on as part of our ‘behind the scenes’ team.

      Simply put, he gets it. He’s also the most knowledgeable mortgage guy I’ve met in person. This story is indicative of the sort of expertise and added value our clients enjoy with Brian on board.

    Chantal in Florida on January 20th, 2008 at 6:06 am said:

    • I had a similar conversation with my partner the other week. We were discussing how clients often hold onto certain statements we make during our conversations. We deal with a lot of investment properties and often have to get aggressive to bring in clients. The problem is, no matter what you say, the client WILL hear only the lowest price or the lowest interest rate you quote…even in the loosest of context.

      You also brought up another good point about investing in real estate. With the baby boomers hitting retirement (80% of this countries wealth hanging up their hats), the younger generation are going to have to start looking to real estate investments over their 401k’s and other annuation funds. The money is just not going to be around for those in their 20’s and 30’s now. Just like your client, it’s never too late to start looking at investment strategies. Better late than never.

    BawldGuy on January 20th, 2008 at 6:43 pm said:

    • Chantal — It’s such a commonly seen example of human nature. I’ve been guilty of it myself many times. We start as little kids right? When Daddy said ‘maybe’ we really heard yes. :)

      I think the Boomers’ kids will indeed see that wealth as it passes to the next generation. Their problem is how long we’re gonna live. :)

      My grandma just entered an assisted care home at 94. Up ’till four months ago she was still walking a mile with friends — twice a day!

      This doesn’t bode well for my kids. :)

    WalidM on January 23rd, 2008 at 3:58 am said:

    • How true this is! This piece comes right in on the aftermath of a contextual misunderstanding in my own RE career. What amazes me is while fixing the mishap involves repeating back what I know I said the first time - the client agrees to hearing what they know I said the first time. Life and people are funny - I’ve decided to enjoy them both.

      www.walidmrealtor.com

    BawldGuy on January 23rd, 2008 at 8:57 am said:

    • You can’t be in this business and not have that experience. :)

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