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	<title>Comments on: Understanding The Difference Between Flipping And Being A Real Estate Investor</title>
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/understanding-the-difference-between-flipping-and-being-a-real-estate-investor/#comment-9314</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Michael -- Long time no see. Good to hear from you.

Yer spoiling my follow up post. :) There ARE times when flipping works very well. This post was pointing out what happens to folks who treat it as the be all end all. They end up on a treadmill off of which they can't jump. Retirement hits, and they have little or nothing. 

Your points are excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michael &#8212; Long time no see. Good to hear from you.</p>
<p>Yer spoiling my follow up post. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  There ARE times when flipping works very well. This post was pointing out what happens to folks who treat it as the be all end all. They end up on a treadmill off of which they can&#8217;t jump. Retirement hits, and they have little or nothing. </p>
<p>Your points are excellent.
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		<title>by: Michael Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/understanding-the-difference-between-flipping-and-being-a-real-estate-investor/#comment-9313</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What about market timing.  There are times when its great to flip and when its great to buy and hold.  Now is a great buy and hold time, but five years ago would have been a great time to flip.  Anyone who is simple enough to believe the same strategy works in all markets and is also simple enough not to take Josh's advice above is stupid.  While buy-low sell high is rarely as easy as it sounds, some times it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about market timing.  There are times when its great to flip and when its great to buy and hold.  Now is a great buy and hold time, but five years ago would have been a great time to flip.  Anyone who is simple enough to believe the same strategy works in all markets and is also simple enough not to take Josh&#8217;s advice above is stupid.  While buy-low sell high is rarely as easy as it sounds, some times it is.
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		<title>by: Cher</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/understanding-the-difference-between-flipping-and-being-a-real-estate-investor/#comment-9272</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>'The market rose so much so fast even the incompetent made money giving them a false sense of mastery of a difficult business.' 
I have to say a truer sentence was never uttered!, Robert.
This is a market that makes many of us (including myself) very humble. 
A big thump from the "School of Hard Knocks" is not especially a fun way to get an education!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The market rose so much so fast even the incompetent made money giving them a false sense of mastery of a difficult business.&#8217;<br />
I have to say a truer sentence was never uttered!, Robert.<br />
This is a market that makes many of us (including myself) very humble.<br />
A big thump from the &#8220;School of Hard Knocks&#8221; is not especially a fun way to get an education!
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/understanding-the-difference-between-flipping-and-being-a-real-estate-investor/#comment-9245</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Joshua -- Now there's an idea! :)

Be safe Big Guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua &#8212; Now there&#8217;s an idea! <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Be safe Big Guy.
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		<title>by: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/understanding-the-difference-between-flipping-and-being-a-real-estate-investor/#comment-9244</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I was waiting for a post like this.  Flipping is a job; simply put.  Those "easy" profits should have been used the same as anyone working a corporate 9-5 by investing a portion in their long term purposeful plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was waiting for a post like this.  Flipping is a job; simply put.  Those &#8220;easy&#8221; profits should have been used the same as anyone working a corporate 9-5 by investing a portion in their long term purposeful plan.
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/understanding-the-difference-between-flipping-and-being-a-real-estate-investor/#comment-9242</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Robert -- Thanks for the visual. LOL

As anyone who reads our frequent give and take comments, we probably agree 80% or more of the time. We just couch it differently.

Your pithy observation about the boom years flippers is on point. But my point remains the same: Whether the market is good, bad, or 'normal', the flipper can't easily exit the treadmill they've hopped on. 

Selling to flippers? A whole different post altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8212; Thanks for the visual. LOL</p>
<p>As anyone who reads our frequent give and take comments, we probably agree 80% or more of the time. We just couch it differently.</p>
<p>Your pithy observation about the boom years flippers is on point. But my point remains the same: Whether the market is good, bad, or &#8216;normal&#8217;, the flipper can&#8217;t easily exit the treadmill they&#8217;ve hopped on. </p>
<p>Selling to flippers? A whole different post altogether.
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		<title>by: Robert Coté</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/understanding-the-difference-between-flipping-and-being-a-real-estate-investor/#comment-9241</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Most flippers though, earn their profits fairly, pay their taxes, then move on to the next one.&lt;/i&gt;

Most &lt;b&gt;professional&lt;/b&gt; flippers though, earn their profits fairly, pay their taxes, then move on to the next one.  The last few years have been awash with amateurs who have worse than no clue but very wrong ideas.  They weren't the same animal and some of them haven't been burned yet.  They are still out there with a successful last deal looking for that flip that will break them.  The market rose so much so fast even the incompetent made money giving them a false sense of mastery of a difficult business.  

There's nothing wrong with selling to a flipper as long as that's what you are doing.  Taking back a note is not selling, it is a partnership with you as first loss target and deep pocket liable.  And the other things, don't participate in any convoluted transactions that could make you an accomplice to tax fraud.  And it should go without saying never, never, never give a flipper access to the property before the check clears.  

I'm beginning to feel like the little contrarian elf that sits on Jeff's shoulder and whispers negative things in his ear.  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Most flippers though, earn their profits fairly, pay their taxes, then move on to the next one.</i></p>
<p>Most <b>professional</b> flippers though, earn their profits fairly, pay their taxes, then move on to the next one.  The last few years have been awash with amateurs who have worse than no clue but very wrong ideas.  They weren&#8217;t the same animal and some of them haven&#8217;t been burned yet.  They are still out there with a successful last deal looking for that flip that will break them.  The market rose so much so fast even the incompetent made money giving them a false sense of mastery of a difficult business.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with selling to a flipper as long as that&#8217;s what you are doing.  Taking back a note is not selling, it is a partnership with you as first loss target and deep pocket liable.  And the other things, don&#8217;t participate in any convoluted transactions that could make you an accomplice to tax fraud.  And it should go without saying never, never, never give a flipper access to the property before the check clears.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to feel like the little contrarian elf that sits on Jeff&#8217;s shoulder and whispers negative things in his ear.  <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />
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