Recession Isn’t An Issue For Real Estate Investors With Timing

Posted @ 9:14 pm - Filed under Real Estate Investing, Real Estate Markets, Economy, Investment Lessons, Predictions

A real free market capitalist may not embrace recessions, but they understand them, and would rather treat them for what they are — a cleanup crew taking away the debris slowing the economy down. It’s sometimes a brutal process, but what’s the alternative? A government controlled economy? One can certainly argue our economy isn’t totally free, and they wouldn’t hear a peep from this corner. Still, it’s pretty much the most agile, fluid, and adjustable economy in the world, so I’ll take it.

windsock

Let’s assume we’re in a recession now. It’s too early to be positive, but the numbers seem to show a certain velocity toward that end. We could avoid it, but at this point it doesn’t seem likely. My take, based on experience, checking my windsock, and a cracked crystal ball, says it’ll be very short lived, and probably pretty shallow.

As usual, I’ll invoke the BawldGuy Disclaimer: That opinion along with my heavily armed Starbucks card will get us both some coffee and a cookie.

Real estate investors shouldn’t be celebrating, but on the other hand, if indeed we’re in even a short and shallow version, it should lengthen somewhat the ‘window’ I’m constantly talking about. You know the one. It’s allowing us to stay under the radar while we’re buying very cool and performing investment property in selected growth regions. This opportunity happened, in different form, the last recession back in 2001. Investors who paid attention, won, and won big.

This won’t be any different.

Here’s the point of today’s thinking.

As mentioned here before, the Bulls & Bears have been going at it tooth and nail for awhile now. I thought they’d of settled this thing by around Super Bowl time, but nnoooooo. Remember, Bears have a vested interest in the market tanking. They’ve bet big bucks on just that scenario. It’s in their best interests to move Heaven and Earth to make it a reality. They’ve got more than one big problem.

Dr. Ben Bernanke — increases in liquidity/lower interest rates — manufacturers kickin’ butt.

pushing bull over

Bernanke has been arming Bulls to the teeth with his many strategic moves, and though many have argued he’s been tardy, his actions have shown fruit. Interest is down. Liquidity is way up. Banks are doing business again. The subprime problem is being slowly leached from the system. All is certainly not well, so don’t break out the rose colored glasses. But the Bears are in serious, serious trouble. And they know it. That’s why they’ve been trying so hard to push the Bull over.

The end is near. They’re doing whatever they can to block the next Bull market. They’re failing. They’ve now failed 4-6 times in the last 90 days by my count.

There’s something very different about the current scenario and what we’ve become accustomed to in previous recessions. This difference is what has me cautiously optimistic. But you weigh the facts and make up your own mind.

Normally, consumers slow their spending, inventories build up, businesses then cut back, which then impacts employment negatively. Manufacturers lay folks off, and transportation (read: shipping) suffers greatly. Before too long, consumers begin to trickle back and the economy slowly begins a return to normalcy. It’s been a predictable and natural ‘cleansing’ process.

The big difference now is that market fraud has been a huge factor. That’s not normal, or hasn’t been since I’ve been around. There’s always some fraud, but not systematically embedded in something as large as the real estate market. That’s clearly a huge difference. It’s being addressed as it should be.

So why am I cautiously optimistic? Because of all the empirical evidence not in any way available in normal pre-recession times. Like what?

Production is rising to meet increasing export and military needs. Exports? Yep, exports. That’s not what you’d call recessionary by anyone’s definition. You can’t export what you’re not making, right? We’re still manufacturing big time.

The DOW Transportation Index is proceeding at great haste to a record high. Yet the DOW Industrials are pretty far from that scenario. One looks at that, and is forced to askWhat do all the shippers out there know that the manufacturers (industrial) don’t know?

18 wheelers on the road

Today the DOW Industrials are not nearly as ‘industrial’ as they once were. They’re a whole lot of service industry, which is hardly industrial in nature. The DOW Transportation Index is relatively still a pure breed — they’re made up of, duh, transportation companies. These companies are way too busy shipping stuff every which where for unemployment to become a big problem. All those trucks ain’t drivin’ around the country empty, know what I mean, Verne?

This is a first, at least in my experience. Services are backing off, while Transportation is full speed ahead. The general stock market has seemed to take this into account. Otherwise, this ‘recession’ would already have arrived, and been way scarier than it is, which isn’t scary at all. You can talk all you want to about the different components in play, but when our roads and rails are chock full of goods being shipped from ‘here to there’, our health as an economy is far better than the Bears would have us believe.

And that’s their problem. grizzly

BawldGuy Prediction: Sometime after July 4th, barring some sort of crazy event, the Bears will begin looking for the best hibernation locations. There are simply too many market forces combined with the Fed for them to fight much longer. Unemployment? It’s now ‘up’ to the point college students have been taught for decades is ‘normal’. Around 5%.

That’s how far the mainstream media is willing to go. Tell us what’s been considered normal the last several generations is now scary news.

Don’t believe them, ‘cuz all those trucks out there aren’t bluffin’ — they’re full, and have another load waiting for them to bring back.

This is all good for real estate investors. Interest rates remain historically low, allowing the purchase of income producing properties in growth regions, some who’ve become what I call, ‘destination’ regions. Employers are moving to these places, and expanding if they’re already there. I’ve seen this movie several times, and the real estate investor who moves at this point in the movie? They win.

‘Nuff said.

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13 comments to “Recession Isn’t An Issue For Real Estate Investors With Timing”

Robert Coté on April 9th, 2008 at 8:24 am said:

  • Around 5%.

    This is the part where I probably stop being one of your favorite posters.

    If you use the same unemployment statistics that were used in the early 90s when unemployment was 6.8% indicating recession then today’s unemployment is… 7.5% roughly the same as the modern U-6 from BLS as opposed to the twice modified U-3 that you are reporting.

    United Parcel Service UPS is 10.4% of the ^DJT index, down 3%+ on unexpected news of massive reductions in shipments and rising costs. I watch the rail tonnage and it is at best fair. Three airlines declared BK this week. It might be that the transports are missing something that other sectors are seeing. Sure they used to lead but then again unemployment used to lead housing downturns as well.

BawldGuy on April 9th, 2008 at 9:36 am said:

  • Robert — Not a chance — still on the A-List.

    The overall shipping and the Index don’t lie. They’ve been driving toward the all time high, and they’re only 400 points away. Meanwhile, Industrials are about 1,600 points from their high.

    One would have to believe investors are becoming cultish, and for no empirical reason about transport stocks.

    Unless you have another reason for their rise, I’m stickin’ to my guns. I’m not the Lone Ranger here, as there are some incredibly respected Wall Streeters who agree with this outlook.

    Time will tell, and fairly quickly.

David Shafer on April 9th, 2008 at 10:43 am said:

  • Actually, three airlines going bk has nothing to do with the recession. A business model that is dependant on prices lower than cost and fuel costs not rising is bound to fail. Even the major airlines, now including Southwest, are far from profitable with just their airline business.
    I know business in general here in Florida has been poor for at least six months, so we are definately in the down portion of the business cycle. Hopefully, you are right and it will pick up this summer!

BawldGuy on April 9th, 2008 at 10:50 am said:

  • David — Great points. The business cycle will always have its way.

    >A business model that is dependant on prices lower than cost and fuel costs not rising is bound to fail.

    One would think. Ticket prices are gonna hafta rise soon.

    David, do you have a theory about why the Transportation Index has been so strong, and shipping the same? I know those are facts, but for the life of me, I can’t figure out why.

    Exports and military needs are decent answers, but I’d love to find out more in depth and richly detailed explanations.

Robert Coté on April 9th, 2008 at 11:15 am said:

  • Here’s today’s TSI:

    http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2008/bts016_08/html/bts016_08.html

    Excerpt:

    Since dropping to a recent low in September, the freight index has increased in three months, declined in one month and has been unchanged in one month (Table 2). At 111.5, the freight TSI is down 1.5 percent from its peak of 113.1 achieved in November 2005 but up 3.2 percent in the five months since its recent low of 108.0 in September 2007.
    —-

    That’s what I was reading when I said “fair.” I can also see what goes in in subsequent months. Airline passenger miles and public transit both appear to be declining for instance. As to why the stocks are holding, if i knew that I wouldn’t be posting, I’d be too rich. I think the stocks are doing well because pricing authority finally seems to be holding and backwards looking earnings are very good.

    P.S. I know way better than to hold up today’s 3+% transport index decline as proof of anything.

BawldGuy on April 9th, 2008 at 11:28 am said:

  • Robert — I get your point. I’m impressed by the speed by which the Dow Transportation Index has rallied. They’re very sensitive to rises and falls in both manufacturing and shipping.

    They’re both very busy now doing what they do best. Until someone shows me something empirically to the contrary, I’m standing my ground.

    The alternative is to believe all the investors causing the DTI to rise to impressively are all wrong. It’s possible, but not likely. Investors tend to be an empirically based breed — as you are.

    July is racing toward us. We’ll know soon enough.

Robert Coté on April 9th, 2008 at 11:40 am said:

  • I think it will be all about pricing authority. If the airlines can charge and the truckers can surcharge the prices are justified. I do tend to think the transports are priced to perfection in a very imperfect world. Exports will help too (mfg and trans).

    How’d you like to be in the lumber industry? http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=CES3132100001&data_tool=XGtable
    Somebody is shipping a whole lot fewer board feet.

    I don’t even want to convince you. These are opinions only lightly held. I just present them so that if things don’t pick up we have a head start on why.

Robert Coté on April 9th, 2008 at 11:52 am said:

David Shafer on April 9th, 2008 at 1:58 pm said:

  • Frankly, I am not an expert in transportation but here are a couple of thinking points:
    Demand for corn is up (ethanol) as is the price. This corn has to be transported somewhere. My friends who own restaurants have been complaining for over a year about food prices rising, so the increase fuel costs have been incorporated in quickly, leaving in the profit margin.
    When trucking becomes economically difficult because of fuel costs, railroads become more desireable.
    Imports are still heavy and they by nature need transportation to markets.

    In short, 1. we all still eat even in a recession, maybe at home instead of a restaurant, but buy food nontheless so we need food to be delivered to our area. I recently shopped in New Hampshire and had no problem buying Florida Strawberries. 2. One of the byproducts of massive importing of goods is increase reliance on transportation 3. Even though much has been made of the increase cost of gasoline, it hasn’t fundamentally changed our driving behavior yet (some evidence seems to point out that cities that have mass transit are seeing increase ridership and lessened traffic jams like in Boston). 4. much of the home equity used during the last 5 years might have gone to luxury items 5. lumber production might not be the canary in mine instead an anomoly.

    And finally, the recession could behave very differently because we are a very different economy then in the last century.

    Hope this spurns some thought, basically I have no idea!!!

BawldGuy on April 9th, 2008 at 2:04 pm said:

  • David — I totally neglected the shipping of imports, thanks.

    I agree the whole lumber thing is an anomaly.

    What do you think about the increasing level of our exports?

David Shafer on April 10th, 2008 at 6:42 am said:

  • Exports? Dollar declines, inflation is high in Asia makes our products more desireable. How much of that increase is food (ie corn, wheat, soy beans)?

Robert Coté on April 10th, 2008 at 8:08 am said:

  • There is also a significant increase in metals export, both recycled and bulk production. Again the weakened dollar, balance of trade and burgeoning foreign economies.

BawldGuy on April 10th, 2008 at 9:50 am said:

  • Robert’s given a good example, David. Our dollar is now forcing global competition, and our quality is as usual, superior. Europe is already beginning to grumble.

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