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	<title>Comments on: Na Na Hey Hey Good-Bye Market Correction? &#8212; That&#8217;s What Sam Says</title>
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-10046</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Barry -- Not lookin' like a bulls eye is it? :)

I've thought for quite awhile we'd see signs in the 3rd &#038; 4th quarters of a potential bottom. 

Now, in very hard hit places like Phoenix and San Diego, we're seeing the beginnings of the correction losing steam. First, SD was taken off the 'declining market' list. Not a bad sign. Then we started seeing 1-2,000 REO's monthly in Phoenix sold. About 20-30% of them via multiple offers for more than listed price. Same now happening in SD.

Was Zell on the money? Doesn't look like it. Are we maybe lookin' at the correction slowin' down in preparation for a U-Turn? I think it could be more likely than not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry &#8212; Not lookin&#8217; like a bulls eye is it? <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought for quite awhile we&#8217;d see signs in the 3rd &#038; 4th quarters of a potential bottom. </p>
<p>Now, in very hard hit places like Phoenix and San Diego, we&#8217;re seeing the beginnings of the correction losing steam. First, SD was taken off the &#8216;declining market&#8217; list. Not a bad sign. Then we started seeing 1-2,000 REO&#8217;s monthly in Phoenix sold. About 20-30% of them via multiple offers for more than listed price. Same now happening in SD.</p>
<p>Was Zell on the money? Doesn&#8217;t look like it. Are we maybe lookin&#8217; at the correction slowin&#8217; down in preparation for a U-Turn? I think it could be more likely than not.
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		<title>by: Barry Ritholtz</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-10045</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, its August 2008 -- and now half a year later, that looks like a terrible call by Zell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, its August 2008 &#8212; and now half a year later, that looks like a terrible call by Zell.
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		<title>by: Sean Purcell</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6745</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You guys are playing on a level I only look up at when my neck feels stong.  I will add this observation though: I work with a lot of residential real estate agents, both as coach and as lender, and over the last thirty days they can not stop their phones from ringing.

Whether this is pent up demand from last year or a return to some balance in the market remains to be seen.  My own (stikingly myopic) financial analysis gives me some concern about what I see as a potential debacle for many main stream lenders.

The sub-prime "crisis" was mostly a press driven frenzy. But I (as well as the Great and Powerful Oz over at Mortgage Rates Report) have been reporting on Countrywide's demise since last April. I don't think they're the only ones by a long shot.  Wall Street does not take kindly to accounting problems and they definitely don't care for companies that restate their earnings (ask New Century).  I am more than a little nervous that both of these problems are going to plague the neg-am lenders in the coming months. Just my 2 cents' worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are playing on a level I only look up at when my neck feels stong.  I will add this observation though: I work with a lot of residential real estate agents, both as coach and as lender, and over the last thirty days they can not stop their phones from ringing.</p>
<p>Whether this is pent up demand from last year or a return to some balance in the market remains to be seen.  My own (stikingly myopic) financial analysis gives me some concern about what I see as a potential debacle for many main stream lenders.</p>
<p>The sub-prime &#8220;crisis&#8221; was mostly a press driven frenzy. But I (as well as the Great and Powerful Oz over at Mortgage Rates Report) have been reporting on Countrywide&#8217;s demise since last April. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re the only ones by a long shot.  Wall Street does not take kindly to accounting problems and they definitely don&#8217;t care for companies that restate their earnings (ask New Century).  I am more than a little nervous that both of these problems are going to plague the neg-am lenders in the coming months. Just my 2 cents&#8217; worth.
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6744</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yer on!

Buying in the obviously growing areas where employers are expanding and the cost of living is far lower than California and other extremes, still make sense to buy this year -- big time. Those who wait, in my view, will literally pay the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yer on!</p>
<p>Buying in the obviously growing areas where employers are expanding and the cost of living is far lower than California and other extremes, still make sense to buy this year &#8212; big time. Those who wait, in my view, will literally pay the price.
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		<title>by: Robert Coté</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6743</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Three San Diego agents have told me they’ve consistently seen investors walk away empty handed for foreclosure sales.&lt;/i&gt;

I'll assume you meant "investors walk away empty handed &lt;b&gt;FROM&lt;/b&gt; foreclosure sales" and it was just too much KC BBQ sauce that caused your fingers to slip.  ;-)

I will concede that the investor versus owner occupant competition for REO properties is no contest in favor of the OO for now.  I judge that good for "gettin' outta Dodge" on the last stagecoach but don't see what it says about the national investing climate for buying anytime in 2008.  

Let me buy you a half-a-rack at Buster's next time you are in Ventura County.  You'll think you've died and gone to Kansas City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Three San Diego agents have told me they’ve consistently seen investors walk away empty handed for foreclosure sales.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll assume you meant &#8220;investors walk away empty handed <b>FROM</b> foreclosure sales&#8221; and it was just too much KC BBQ sauce that caused your fingers to slip.  <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I will concede that the investor versus owner occupant competition for REO properties is no contest in favor of the OO for now.  I judge that good for &#8220;gettin&#8217; outta Dodge&#8221; on the last stagecoach but don&#8217;t see what it says about the national investing climate for buying anytime in 2008.  </p>
<p>Let me buy you a half-a-rack at Buster&#8217;s next time you are in Ventura County.  You&#8217;ll think you&#8217;ve died and gone to Kansas City.
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6740</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks Allan -- The documentation of my prediction is in the first link of the post. (Jan. 5th)

Saying Zell is an advanced investor/businessman is like saying Michael Jordon could dribble well. :)

Thanks for comin' by Allan -- don't be a stranger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Allan &#8212; The documentation of my prediction is in the first link of the post. (Jan. 5th)</p>
<p>Saying Zell is an advanced investor/businessman is like saying Michael Jordon could dribble well. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for comin&#8217; by Allan &#8212; don&#8217;t be a stranger.
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		<title>by: Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6739</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice call if you really did call the same thing two months ago.  I wouldn't bet against guys like Sam Zell who are governed only by reason and logic.  The guy is an advanced investor and businessman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice call if you really did call the same thing two months ago.  I wouldn&#8217;t bet against guys like Sam Zell who are governed only by reason and logic.  The guy is an advanced investor and businessman.
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		<title>by: Allan Young's Incoherence</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6738</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wisdom of Cantankerous Sam Zell...&lt;/strong&gt;

I love this guy Sam Zell - he&#8217;s just so funny and sharp.  Zell is the real estate investment billionaire who sold his Equity Office Properties Trust to the Blackstone Group for $39 billion in the early part of 2007.  He recently bought the Tribun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Wisdom of Cantankerous Sam Zell&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I love this guy Sam Zell - he&#8217;s just so funny and sharp.  Zell is the real estate investment billionaire who sold his Equity Office Properties Trust to the Blackstone Group for $39 billion in the early part of 2007.  He recently bought the Tribun&#8230;
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6737</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Three San Diego agents have told me they've consistently seen investors walk away empty handed for foreclosure sales. The homes sold to owner/users willing and able to pay more. Yet another brick in the wall.

Layman perception goes a long way -- good, bad, or ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three San Diego agents have told me they&#8217;ve consistently seen investors walk away empty handed for foreclosure sales. The homes sold to owner/users willing and able to pay more. Yet another brick in the wall.</p>
<p>Layman perception goes a long way &#8212; good, bad, or ugly.
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		<title>by: Robert Coté</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/na-na-hey-hey-good-bye-market-correction-thats-what-sam-says/#comment-6736</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;[B]uilders who celebrated my very existence 90 days ago won’t return calls. They’re selling homes at retail today off the street to walk-ins.

Same thing for REOs. I’m getting first hand reports from our state to Florida. Of course some are more active states than others, but you get the point.&lt;/i&gt;

I do now.  Thanks.  I also agree that REO pricing is remarkably firm in every market I am following including the bubble zones.  Just to present some balance; my sister just closed on a combination rental/vacation property on Cape Cod and I didn't discourage her based on my analysis of her goals of acceptable cash flow and personal use and capital exposure/potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[B]uilders who celebrated my very existence 90 days ago won’t return calls. They’re selling homes at retail today off the street to walk-ins.</p>
<p>Same thing for REOs. I’m getting first hand reports from our state to Florida. Of course some are more active states than others, but you get the point.</i></p>
<p>I do now.  Thanks.  I also agree that REO pricing is remarkably firm in every market I am following including the bubble zones.  Just to present some balance; my sister just closed on a combination rental/vacation property on Cape Cod and I didn&#8217;t discourage her based on my analysis of her goals of acceptable cash flow and personal use and capital exposure/potential.
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