Myth: Your Marginal Income Tax Rate Will Fall In Retirement

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There are a few myths out there held as nearly doctrinaire by many. This one though packs a surprise waiting in ambush — timed to go off at retirement.

It’s held as almost the 11 commandment that once you retire, your income tax rate will drop significantly. This is so far from the reality, it’s akin to teaching summer brings cooling temperatures.

11th commandment

Ya can’t have it both ways. Those for whom the myth is almost a spiritual mantra, are the same ones who preach save and invest from the crib. Amass ginormous amounts of capital. Capital which will yield massive amounts of retirement income. Really? Massive income? Yet lowered income tax rates? Anyone see a problem here?

There’s only one reason for most folk’s income tax rate to fall in retirement: They simply didn’t Purposefully Plan — resulting in a retirement income capable of keeping food on the table, but sadly, not much more. Of course their income tax rate will fall.

So will their standard of living.

On the other hand, if they’ve been saving and investing for most if not all their adult working lives, their pile of gold should be relatively impressive. By impressive I mean a couple million bucks. I see this often, usually in the form of one of the qualified retirement plans. (IRA, 401(k)) (If they invested in real estate consistently, they did far better.)

If you as a taxpayer work hard, don’t live up to your eyeballs, save and invest prudently over a sustained period of time, a couple million bucks is without a doubt within your grasp. Even if we say the above mentioned couple have jobs peaking out at way over the median income, say $80,000 a year — they’re in for a surprise when they face April 15th for the first time after retirement.

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Their retirement plan spits out income — cool. Their $2 Million at say, 7%, yields $140,000 a year in taxable income. Chances are they’ve paid off their home. They have precious little, in reality, probably no tax write-offs. No kids. No real estate. No tax free income. Nada, Zip, Zilch. Tax wise they’re naked as the day they were born.

And there’s not a dang thing they can do about it.

At today’s tax rates, you make the call. Are they gonna pay more in taxes than their peak years at just over half that amount? Duh.

Do ya think taxes are gonna go up or down in the next 10-30 years? Yeah, I know, not a clue. Me neither. With the Gray Bomb (Aging Boomers) growing in impact each year, Social Security becoming more and more of a land mine, and the last 95 years of income taxes trending up, do you really believe your taxes and tax rates are gonna be less than where you were workin’? Really?

Let’s Review

You don’t plan, ending up with very little income, and as you predicted, your tax rate goes down, maybe way down. Happy? Don’t answer, it’s a rhetorical question.

You manage to accumulate a couple million, which you then invest in very safe income producing vehicles. You’re now earning six figures yearly, something you never did on the job. The problem is, pretty much all that income is taxable to the max. Every time taxes go up, you lose. Inflation? You lose.

1960 Chevy

Changes in Social Security? You probably lose.

Remember the median income back in 1960? It was give or take around $6,000 or so. If I went back to the average 35 year old back then and guaranteed them a pretax income of $35,000/yr. in retirement, they would have taken it before I withdrew the offer. You know I’m right. Millions did exactly that.

How’s that been workin’ for them? Yeah, no kiddin’.

That’s exactly what folks back then did. Look where it got ‘em. They’d have to move up a notch to be up the creek without a paddle. They don’t even have a boat these days.

The Moral Of The Story

You better hope you’re in a higher tax bracket upon retirement, ‘cuz if you’re not, you screwed up big time. And if you are, you better have planned a whole lot better than Grandpa did. His whole ‘free & clear’ approach got him nowhere but in the poor house — free & clear of a life. So many folks who’ve retired in the last 30 years have now sadly realized they didn’t create a retirement, they gave themselves a life sentence.

1. Planning for a reduced income tax bracket is planning for retirement disaster.

2. Creating a nice retirement income sans allowing for tax planning? — See #1.

3. A Purposeful Plan which moves towards tax sheltered and tax free income is not optional.

4. Investing in real estate generally speaking will generate as much or more after tax retirement income as most folks do before tax.

5. Once you hit retirement — there’s no goin’ back.

The next time you hear or read how retirees don’t have to worry about their income, ‘cuz their tax rates are gonna be lower — smile — you know better now.

The sooner we talk, the sooner we can boost yer tax rate. :) Come on, you know that’s funny.

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11 comments to “Myth: Your Marginal Income Tax Rate Will Fall In Retirement”

David Shafer on June 13th, 2008 at 1:15 pm said:

  • Amazing how these so called experts have been able to speak out of both sides of their mouth for years without someone giving them a good slap. I don’t know how many times I have heard that pitch, and then found out they have less than $100,000 saved in their 401K. Yep, those people are going to be in a low tax bracket all right, thanks to the experts!

BawldGuy on June 13th, 2008 at 1:21 pm said:

  • Many of them are now my clients, and playing ‘catch up’ like crazy. It doesn’t seem to dawn on people that if their income tax rate falls it’s because of the sometimes life altering decrease in income at retirement.

    This problem is mushrooming in real time as we speak. Sad.

Joshua on June 13th, 2008 at 1:33 pm said:

  • Jeff:

    I’m assuming that when we complete our purposeful plan that we are cashing out of all of our real estate except for the home in which we live at that time.

    I have heard that investing in Municipal Bonds (note that not all Munis are created equally) are generally a tax free way to invest and earn a decent return.

    So, if you retire with $2 million in the bank and invest that into a Muni that pays 3% (for example) you could be earning all that tax free? Maybe I’m wrong but what should our Purposeful plan be when we “cash out” at retirement?

David Shafer on June 13th, 2008 at 1:58 pm said:

BawldGuy on June 13th, 2008 at 2:03 pm said:

  • Just one itty bitty problem with that idea, Joshua.

    The $2 Million is, for 99% of folks, in their qualified retirement plan. That means whatever money they take out, is taxed as ordinary income.

    Most folks would be better off with an EIUL, as the income is tax free period, and there’s no estate taxes for heirs. 401(k)’s get almost divided in two when the owner dies.

    Tax free bonds are cool Joshua, but their return is lower, and for the most part, they’re gonna be taxed to death when you pass.

    Hope this helps.

BawldGuy on June 13th, 2008 at 2:11 pm said:

  • Joshua — The assumption you’d sell all your real estate at retirement is part of an ongoing myth.

    What the sophisticated investor does, is anticipate retirement by transitioning their equities from capital growth to cash flow properties.

    What this offers is cash flow, built in tax shelter for some if not all the income, and the flexibility to access large amounts of cash without paying taxes if needed.

    The sale of all real estate at retirement turns it into nothing but another government designed retirement plan — theirs. It’s the Treasury who will be getting 25-35% of your hard earned capital if you insist on selling real estate upon retiring.

    Your Purposeful Plan will account for this transition in richly defined detail, not only mechanically, but chronologically.

    Thanks again, Joshua.

BawldGuy on June 13th, 2008 at 2:14 pm said:

  • David’s comment is right on the money, Joshua.

    I’d go on more, but suffice to say:

    ‘Yeah, what he said!’ :)

Joshua on June 13th, 2008 at 7:53 pm said:

  • The article was good but it was missing the answer to “then what should we do when we are at the end of our plan” and thus my original post.

    By the time I retire (I’m still wet behind the ears) things will probably change much so I’ll have to ask this question again someday. ;)

BawldGuy on June 13th, 2008 at 7:58 pm said:

  • Thanks Joshua — love it when readers give me post material. :)

Vlad on July 24th, 2008 at 1:20 pm said:

  • Jeff,

    What is your opinion on Whole Life insurance from the company like New York Life instead of 401k?

BawldGuy on July 24th, 2008 at 1:42 pm said:

  • Click on Dave Shafer’s name in the comments. He’ll have a more in depth answer for you. Tell him I sent you.

    IMHO, whole life is probably the equal or less of 401(k) returns. EIUL’s are far more productive with almost infinitely better tax treatment of both income and after death transfer.

    Also, to the extent your company is matching your contributions dollar for dollar, you’d be better with 401(k) up to that point. 0% return means every year you doubled your money.

    Go directly now to Dave Shafer and ask him what’s up.

    And don’t be a stranger, Vlad.

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