Lenders Clearing Deck To Blink, Uh, Lend — What Will They Think of Next?

Posted @ 12:16 am - Filed under Financing, subprime, Economy, Investment Lessons

I’ve been waitin’ to write this post for too dang long. There was just no way lenders weren’t gonna blink, no way. No matter what though, I’m not gonna say those three little words. It’d be too easy.

Since at least the first of this year, I’ve been saying lenders will not allow hundreds of thousands of adjustable loans to adjust payments to ridiculous levels. You think their borrowers would be up the creek without a paddle?picnictable They’d be in better shape than lenders trying to cope with massive increases in foreclosures on their books — not to mention the practical side of getting them off their books. Lenders are notoriously incompetent when in possession of foreclosed properties. Most of their, (insert laugh track here) REO Departments, and/or Short Sale staffs couldn’t organize a one man picnic. Ask your local short sale specialist. Buy them a beer, ask them for some short sale stories, and stand back.

Lenders lend — they don’t, they’re in fact terrible, at selling property. You’d think my college student daughter, who can’t stand real estate, could sell an REO (lender speak for — foreclosed real estate we now own) without too many hitches. After all,

The experts out there, have been telling me how wrong I was. “BawldGuy, with all due respect, I’m surprised you’re posting before removing the rose colored glasses. The sky is falling, prices are about to fall even more, and the end of the world is nigh.”

Or, and this is one of my all time favs — “What are you going to do when the defaults and foreclosures start hitting the fan, and housing prices fall 60-80%?”

How do ya top that one? You don’t try. It’s one of those stand-alone-forever statements, best left to ferment on their own.

Jeff, what about the sub-prime problem? What about it? For a year this blog has been saying it’ll ultimately prove to be a large ripple in the large pond, not the tsunami the media has been predicting. You wanna see a tsunami? Watch the tears fall from all the journalists as they’re forced to report we’re really not all going to hell in a hand basket. :)

Sub-Prime Dominos

The Treasury Department has been, according to the Wall Street Journal, subprime dominos(and many others) still talking with the major players about what they’re gonna voluntarily do about the more than 2 million loans about to adjust upward. Kinda like when I used to voluntarily mow the lawns every Saturday. I’m the last guy to promote government intervention. Anyone who knows me, will attest to that. What the treasury is doing here is avoiding regulation — more regulation.

Here’s what the Chicken Littles will say next.

Yeah, but the investor’s won’t go for it. They’re the ones getting the loan payments, and there’s no way they’re gonna take less interest.

Oh yeah? That’s not their choice. Here’s their choice, and they know it. A) Keep getting the interest they are now. OR B) In hundreds of thousands of cases — get no interest at all.

Jeopardy music playing in background. Ding!! Time’s up. What’s yer choice Mr. Investor?

Uh, What’s ‘Freezing the interest at the teaser rate level is fine?’

As said here recently about the Governator’s so called deal with four large lenders, when finally announced, this will be cover for the lenders.

Here’s what they were facing. Put yourself in their collective shoes.

Over 2 million sub-prime borrowers are beginning to lose sleep. Ironically, lenders have been far more anxious about those loans. They’ve been frettin’ about these adjustments for quite awhile. Then, like an answer to prayer, (not doubt literally for some) the Treasury arrives like Grandma with an umbrella, just before lightning strikes and the storm hits.

Cover — ain’t it grand?

Yeah, we’re gonna do what’s best for our borrowers. We’ll take the pain onto our little ol’ selves.

Here’s what our reaction might be. Smile, and go along with this solution. The result will be exactly what should’ve happened ‘voluntarily’ at least six months ago. Hundreds of thousands of families will, if this voluntary agreement is finalized, wake up the next morning secure in the knowledge they’ll wake up Thanksgiving morning next year in the same home.

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And for the record, don’t think for a minute, Fed Chairman Bernanke doesn’t have his hand somewhere in this. I told you he didn’t care a wit about Wall Street big shots. He does care about the health of the country’s real estate markets in general. He won’t, under any circumstances allow it to go under if he has anything to say about it.

I think he’s discovered a lot to say about it, and this announcement, if it indeed comes, is just one example.

There’s no reason to believe this won’t be worked out, cuz for lenders the alternative for will read like a Stephen King novel. eyeThey don’t wanna be known as Cujo, which would likely be the case once all those thousands of loans began adjusting.

By executing this agreement, if they do, you’ll be see lenders blinking in unison.

BawldGuy Axiom: Lenders Lend

Corollary: And they’ll do whatever it takes to continue doing so.

The biggest winner? Could be the family next door.

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9 comments to “Lenders Clearing Deck To Blink, Uh, Lend — What Will They Think of Next?”

Robert Coté on December 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pm said:

  • Agreeing: Don’t forget NegAm loans have been “paying” theoretical interest. When they fail the lenders will have to go back to the start of the loan and back out earnings they’ve been reporting sometimes for years.

    Disagreeing: The problem with your investors sitting still for modifications are these things called lawyers.

Jeff Brown on December 1st, 2007 at 3:42 pm said:

  • So Robert — You’re an investor with $10 Million in sub-prime loans, all of which are gonna adjust next year. Your lawyer tells you to veto this impending agreement, and hang tough.

    Do you risk the foreclosure losses of interest and principal? Or do you tell him to go back to sixth grade math, protect your principal, and deal with reality?

    Me? I’m biting the bullet and taking a lesser percentage of something vs. 100% of nothing. :)

Cher on December 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pm said:

  • Jeff, “I’m biting the bullet and taking a lesser percentage of something vs. 100% of nothing”
    That statement is SO true!
    Here is an example of how this works: We are involved in an LLC with hard money loans. Many loans are performing as usual. But because of some forclosures and losses on REO’s, all of us have agreed to take a lower cash flow per month. We are all “feeling the pain” together. No suits because the lender, mortgagees and investors are all working together to work through the problems.
    Our IRR has gone from 11% to 9%. Our checks are lower but not by much. It’s better than a CD.
    Hopefully this is how other investors will get through this period. Investors must understand that taking a little less is part of good business practices. As a Landlord, I have lowered cash flow when tenants “default” (evicted)
    I wish people would keep their heads during these down times.
    I predict that there will be a few who sue and the media will hype that. What’s new?

Jeff Brown on December 1st, 2007 at 7:38 pm said:

  • Cher — Your situation is so exactly on point. THANKS :)

    It reminds me of the old saying about being right — dead right.

    Those who don’t understand being right isn’t always profitable, usually end up doing the math after the fact. Doh! 100% of nothing IS nothing. :)

Lenders Lend — Are You a Believer Yet? — Altered Circumstances Changes Behavior | BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog | Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments on December 1st, 2007 at 11:14 pm said:

  • […] Many other Wall Streeters will be elated by this news. The Bulls for instance. In fact, it may be this agreement that acts as the final straw for beleaguered Bears. They may now throw in the towel, or as I said here, finally blink. […]

Robert Coté on December 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pm said:

  • “So Robert — You’re an investor with $10 Million in sub-prime loans, all of which are gonna adjust next year. Your lawyer tells you to veto this impending agreement, and hang tough.”

    No, the investors with $10m start excersizing all the funny page 49 paragraph 123 provisions about cram back, fraud, due diligence and then after they extract their pound of flesh they do the very worst thing; they stop lending. Once bitten, twice shy The people who invest thus giving lenders the wherewithall to lend are not going to accept modifications except as a last resort and they are not going to take the lender’s word for it. There all kinds of investor protections that will get exausted before they resort to mods. Lenders may want to continue lending, it’s what they do as you correctly note but they won’t be able to lend again until they satisfy the investors. And even at that lenders have stopped all kinds of lending. Seen the rate sheets lately? Seen people at brokers forums being openly laughed at trying to place terms that 6 months ago would have been routine? Do you know anybody not under 72hr observation willing to fund just the 20 in an 80/20 in San Diego? We need to be ready for a different lending/borrowing environment.

The Odysseus Medal competition — Voting for the People’s Choice Award is open | BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog | Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments on December 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pm said:

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Michael Cook on December 6th, 2007 at 3:49 pm said:

  • First,

    “Or, and this is one of my all time favs — “What are you going to do when the defaults and foreclosures start hitting the fan, and housing prices fall 60-80%?” ”

    I would mortgage everything including my own parents house and buy any and everything I could get my hands on.

    Second,

    I dont think the CDO issue is easy to deal with as you suggest. First, investors have lots of recourse in these situation. Additionally, some people buy these instruments specifically to foreclose. They also could consider sueing. Your argument for a little bit vs. nothing is not quite correct.

    The way the tranching system works, typically means all or nothing. If you are in the lowest tranche you are the first person to get nothing in the event of default, then the next lowest, etc. As defaults rise more and more tranches get nothing. As the likelihood of getting nothing increases, the price drops.

    The problem here is that all tranches get less by keeping the interest rate lower. If I am in the highest tranche (first and most likely to get paid), I now get less than I would have because of this contract change. Additionally, I had a high likelihood of getting all of my return regardless. Its these guys that have cause and reason to sue. If I have a $1 Billion of good CDO paper, it may drop in price, but I still have my interest. A dip of 3-4% on $1 Billion is not a game. In this case you lose both your appreciation and your interest.

    On the other hand it would be very tough for a big name company to sue because of the horrible press it would generate. Sueing to foreclose on Joe American is not the kind of press the big guys want, so that may be enough to keep them quiet. Additionally, I am sure the government has had many close door come to Jesus meetings with these guys to ensure their cooperation. Still, you never know.

    Its an interesting problem, but I do not think this will be the end of this by any means. I am sure there will be some lawsuits and I am sure the scale of these bailouts will be muted by the investors stick. Whether they use it or not is a different matter.

BawldGuy on December 6th, 2007 at 6:14 pm said:

  • Hey Michael — I was never referring to those who’ve gone for the jugular, i.e. buying loans at discounts. I mentioned them, as I think it’s a fairly smart play now, or at least could be.

    The lawyers are gonna look at this like their momma just gave them $100 and showed them the entrance to the candy store.

    I’ve not said, or at least didn’t ever mean to imply the whole CDO thing was gonna be easy.

    That said, it’s still a matter of lenders’ perception of what’s best for them and what’s to avoid PR-wise, and staying away from the government’s implied hammer.

    If prices do crash, I’m with you — buying everything I can.

    I agree with all tranches getting less. Still, I know how lenders view massive foreclosures. Most of them would rather do just about anything else.

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