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	<title>Comments on: Brown and Brown Back In San Diego and Starring In Getting Outa Dodge</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7539</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&gt;More likely however may be the elimination of investment property interest against regular income. I don’t need to tell you what that would do to investor calculus.

It would have Brown &#038; Brown working around the clock moving folks Outa Dodge. 

That would be an ironic twist, wouldn't it? Raised expenses gets them off the dime, but 4-5 years of their investments becoming more and more unattractive to the experienced and knowledgeable investor didn't phase them.

Go figure. 

Thanks for the age of property for SD backup. For outsiders it was a great eye opener. I doubt San Diegans learned anything though, as so many are on a first name basis with all their repair guys. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>More likely however may be the elimination of investment property interest against regular income. I don’t need to tell you what that would do to investor calculus.</p>
<p>It would have Brown &#038; Brown working around the clock moving folks Outa Dodge. </p>
<p>That would be an ironic twist, wouldn&#8217;t it? Raised expenses gets them off the dime, but 4-5 years of their investments becoming more and more unattractive to the experienced and knowledgeable investor didn&#8217;t phase them.</p>
<p>Go figure. </p>
<p>Thanks for the age of property for SD backup. For outsiders it was a great eye opener. I doubt San Diegans learned anything though, as so many are on a first name basis with all their repair guys. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Robert Coté</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7536</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For the casual listener (reader, I know) it may sound sometimes like we are "talking our book" or just spouting anecdote when we talk about the age of occupied housing units in the region.  Here is the data from the  2006 American Community Survey for San Diego County:

YEAR STRUCTURE BUILT
2000 or later 9.6%
1990 to 1999 11.0%
1980 to 1989 19.6%
1960 to 1979 38.7%
1940 to 1959 16.3%
1939 or earlier 4.8%

It's great that we've got a nice conversational tone but don't mistake that for people like Jeff not having the facts to back up the talk.  

With a deficit of ~$18b and that only because of taking on an additional $3.5b in new debt and the term limits unchanged I can easily foresee some significant shennagins in Sacramento starting about the time the figures for income tax receipts are calculated.  Residential Prop 13 is as you note sacrosanct  but I keep hearing about "splitting the tax rolls."  That could pass and might find rentals on the wrong side of the line.  More likely however may be the elimination of investment property interest against regular income.  I don't need to tell you what that would do to investor calculus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the casual listener (reader, I know) it may sound sometimes like we are &#8220;talking our book&#8221; or just spouting anecdote when we talk about the age of occupied housing units in the region.  Here is the data from the  2006 American Community Survey for San Diego County:</p>
<p>YEAR STRUCTURE BUILT<br />
2000 or later 9.6%<br />
1990 to 1999 11.0%<br />
1980 to 1989 19.6%<br />
1960 to 1979 38.7%<br />
1940 to 1959 16.3%<br />
1939 or earlier 4.8%</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that we&#8217;ve got a nice conversational tone but don&#8217;t mistake that for people like Jeff not having the facts to back up the talk.  </p>
<p>With a deficit of ~$18b and that only because of taking on an additional $3.5b in new debt and the term limits unchanged I can easily foresee some significant shennagins in Sacramento starting about the time the figures for income tax receipts are calculated.  Residential Prop 13 is as you note sacrosanct  but I keep hearing about &#8220;splitting the tax rolls.&#8221;  That could pass and might find rentals on the wrong side of the line.  More likely however may be the elimination of investment property interest against regular income.  I don&#8217;t need to tell you what that would do to investor calculus.
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7529</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Robert -- I'm for UCSD. :)

The age thing in San Diego is gonna bite income property owners HARD. That's of course one of the main reasons we're launching a campaign to get them outa Dodge. :)

Prop 13? It's a constitutional amendment, so any change would have to be with a super majority of either the state legislature or the public. Not much chance of that. 

Any politician even giving audible sound to a thought like that will find themselves in a new profession soon thereafter. 

It's possible they'd try to tax those fleeing the state. After Gov. Davis's experience with driving business from CA and losing his office because of it, one would think Reps and Senators would think long and hard before trying that approach again. But then that would indicate a thoughtful and rational approach, wouldn't it? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8212; I&#8217;m for UCSD. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The age thing in San Diego is gonna bite income property owners HARD. That&#8217;s of course one of the main reasons we&#8217;re launching a campaign to get them outa Dodge. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Prop 13? It&#8217;s a constitutional amendment, so any change would have to be with a super majority of either the state legislature or the public. Not much chance of that. </p>
<p>Any politician even giving audible sound to a thought like that will find themselves in a new profession soon thereafter. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible they&#8217;d try to tax those fleeing the state. After Gov. Davis&#8217;s experience with driving business from CA and losing his office because of it, one would think Reps and Senators would think long and hard before trying that approach again. But then that would indicate a thoughtful and rational approach, wouldn&#8217;t it? <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Sean Purcell</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7526</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>PS

Although Harvard would make a good "back-up choice" while he waits to hear from the others.</description>
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<p>Although Harvard would make a good &#8220;back-up choice&#8221; while he waits to hear from the others.
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		<title>by: Sean Purcell</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7525</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sounds like I should reactivate my General Contractors license!

BTW, let you son know that UCSD is n a beautiful area whereas UCLA &lt;i&gt;used&lt;/i&gt; to be. As for Harvard... all hat and no cattle. Princeton is twice the education and direct from the professors. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like I should reactivate my General Contractors license!</p>
<p>BTW, let you son know that UCSD is n a beautiful area whereas UCLA <i>used</i> to be. As for Harvard&#8230; all hat and no cattle. Princeton is twice the education and direct from the professors. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Robert Coté</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7524</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm not worried about water particularly.  There is a lot of capacity for the population I expect which is half what the State is scaring us with.  Whole blogs could be filled with even things like "wheeling charges" and ordinal rights determination.  We got enough water for now and more won't be that expensive.  Besides  it is such a small portion of total cost of ownership large rises won't filter to the bottom line.  Sorry, bad pun.

The age factor is a big issue.  A lot of the stock is on its last botox injection and face lift.  Looks great until the end.  Blame our weather and such.  Anything before earthquake standards is going to be tres expensive to rehab and unlikely to be able to command rents that justify complete replacement.  I don't need to tell you my advice is to make it someone else's problem.  

I didn't talk about taxes.  Angry people do foolish things.  Prop 13 and any number of other possible changes are being proposed.  My last post talked about taxing RE transfers out of state.  nothing but bad news there either.  

One small bit of good news, my eldest is still considering UCSD vs UCLA and is only waiting for Harvard before choosing.  One more renter can't hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not worried about water particularly.  There is a lot of capacity for the population I expect which is half what the State is scaring us with.  Whole blogs could be filled with even things like &#8220;wheeling charges&#8221; and ordinal rights determination.  We got enough water for now and more won&#8217;t be that expensive.  Besides  it is such a small portion of total cost of ownership large rises won&#8217;t filter to the bottom line.  Sorry, bad pun.</p>
<p>The age factor is a big issue.  A lot of the stock is on its last botox injection and face lift.  Looks great until the end.  Blame our weather and such.  Anything before earthquake standards is going to be tres expensive to rehab and unlikely to be able to command rents that justify complete replacement.  I don&#8217;t need to tell you my advice is to make it someone else&#8217;s problem.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t talk about taxes.  Angry people do foolish things.  Prop 13 and any number of other possible changes are being proposed.  My last post talked about taxing RE transfers out of state.  nothing but bad news there either.  </p>
<p>One small bit of good news, my eldest is still considering UCSD vs UCLA and is only waiting for Harvard before choosing.  One more renter can&#8217;t hurt.
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7523</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Robert -- Agree wholeheartedly. How 'bout future water costs as a California expense about to blow up?

Also, how 'bout the age factor in California? There's gonna be a real problem in San Diego due to the number of income properties having their 30th 40th and 50th birthdays. Now the poor owners have to decide between expensive and ongoing repairs, or biting the bullet and either trading outa Dodge, or opening their wallet for a complete rehab. 

That movie was ripe with quotes, and most of them made you miss the next line or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8212; Agree wholeheartedly. How &#8217;bout future water costs as a California expense about to blow up?</p>
<p>Also, how &#8217;bout the age factor in California? There&#8217;s gonna be a real problem in San Diego due to the number of income properties having their 30th 40th and 50th birthdays. Now the poor owners have to decide between expensive and ongoing repairs, or biting the bullet and either trading outa Dodge, or opening their wallet for a complete rehab. </p>
<p>That movie was ripe with quotes, and most of them made you miss the next line or two.
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		<title>by: Robert Coté</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7522</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ballons?  As a side note if you ever ride Disney's California Soarin' at California adventure I had a hand in a few of the airplanes in the entrance and when you fly over the lemon orchard those are family friends and my house is just at the extreme left left edge.  

Anyway, the thing about California investment/income producing RE is that all the good news is "baked in" and and there is no provision for bad news even now.  I see deteriorating pricing power and inexorable cost increases.  I cannot think of a single recurring expense that isn't going or about to go much higher.  If I may be permitted an observation; insurance is likely to be the next shoe.  Far too low for too long because insurance companies reinvest as part of keeping policies cheaper.  That hasn't worked out of late.  What good is a 6.3% rent increase in the face of energy and insurance?  

My Caddyshack quote: "See your future, be your future."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ballons?  As a side note if you ever ride Disney&#8217;s California Soarin&#8217; at California adventure I had a hand in a few of the airplanes in the entrance and when you fly over the lemon orchard those are family friends and my house is just at the extreme left left edge.  </p>
<p>Anyway, the thing about California investment/income producing RE is that all the good news is &#8220;baked in&#8221; and and there is no provision for bad news even now.  I see deteriorating pricing power and inexorable cost increases.  I cannot think of a single recurring expense that isn&#8217;t going or about to go much higher.  If I may be permitted an observation; insurance is likely to be the next shoe.  Far too low for too long because insurance companies reinvest as part of keeping policies cheaper.  That hasn&#8217;t worked out of late.  What good is a 6.3% rent increase in the face of energy and insurance?  </p>
<p>My Caddyshack quote: &#8220;See your future, be your future.&#8221;
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		<title>by: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bawldguy.com/brown-and-brown-back-in-san-diego-and-starring-in-get-outa-dodge/#comment-7521</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for reminding me of that scene, as it's one of my favorites. 

I'm wondering what a Brown &#038; Brown balloon would look like? Bawld maybe? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reminding me of that scene, as it&#8217;s one of my favorites. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering what a Brown &#038; Brown balloon would look like? Bawld maybe? <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Sean Purcell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jeff,

Pretty innovative for Japan. ;)

I do have to agree with Robert:

&lt;i&gt;start making too much sense you’ll run out of people to sell too&lt;/i&gt;

I know you like to fly under the radar, but ideas like this will have you floating out there more visable than the ReMax balloon.

Maybe you could write some articles on why San Diego is no good for &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; clients. Similar to Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack :)

&lt;b&gt;Al Czervik&lt;/b&gt;: Oh, this is the worst-looking hat I ever saw. What, when you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh? &lt;i&gt;[looks at Judge Smails, who's wearing the same hat]&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Al Czervik&lt;/b&gt;: Oh, it looks good on you though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Pretty innovative for Japan. <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do have to agree with Robert:</p>
<p><i>start making too much sense you’ll run out of people to sell too</i></p>
<p>I know you like to fly under the radar, but ideas like this will have you floating out there more visable than the ReMax balloon.</p>
<p>Maybe you could write some articles on why San Diego is no good for <i>your</i> clients. Similar to Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack <img src='http://www.bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><b>Al Czervik</b>: Oh, this is the worst-looking hat I ever saw. What, when you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh? <i>[looks at Judge Smails, who&#8217;s wearing the same hat]</i><br />
<b>Al Czervik</b>: Oh, it looks good on you though.
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