Are We Coming To A Real Estate Investment Fork In The Road?

Posted @ 7:15 pm - Filed under Buying Income Property, Cash Flow, Economy, Financing, Market Correction, RE investment strategies, San Diego Property Owners, Texas

Yeah, I know, there are more than two schools of thought when we start talkin’ about what’s next in the national economy — especially in the context of the oh so important real estate markets. I get that. But the fork I see are two roads really more or less going in the same direction, which I realize is confusing. Hang with me.

This isn’t new ground by any stretch, as many have written endlessly on ‘what’s next’ — to the point we’re all hittin’ the weary wall. Sooner or later though, it’s gonna break one way or the other, something on which there is universal agreement.

The most likely direction I see us taking is on the same sad dirt road on which we found ourselves in the ’70’s and early ’80’s. I was gonna go all linky on ya, but decided it’d be far more instructive to simply begin the discussion.

Inflation followed the ‘74-75 recession. In fact, it was the first time it had ever reached double digits in my lifetime — at least to my knowledge. From ‘76 through fall of ‘79 inflation was an infection and the doctors seemed to have gone fishin’. For example, San Diego real estate went up a more or less steady 2% — a month — for those nearly four years. We’d never seen anything like it.

When it predictably hit the fan, prime rate was over 20%, FHA was about 16.5%, and both were there to be seen, not used by anyone but the most desperate. It’s a very close call in my opinion, but I think we’re maybe about to be headed that way.

The other road on which we may find ourselves sports the above mentioned inflation but without the accompanying robust economy. Seems oxymoronic doesn’t it? But the phrase ‘Stagflation’ was born just about 30 years ago. Inflation was off the charts while recession deepened. Interest rates remained high for so long, I remember celebrating at the local steakhouse when I closed a deal with an interest rate under 12%. Not makin’ that up. When rates finally dropped to single digits we nearly became euphoric.

Here’s the common denominator between the two scenarios: Both will have windows of opportunity (already open) for real estate investors. And no, this isn’t some convoluted NAR message saying “It’s a great time to buy real estate”. :)

In either case the entry level home buyer will find themselves shuffled off the stage. Either rates will be way to high, or prices will have left them behind. Meanwhile the supply of rental property, affordable that is, will begin to shrink. Nobody, or in any case very few, will be building. Vacancy rates will tumble as rents find new heights. This is already happening in some regions. Texas is one major example as you may have already guessed.

Those who lock in relatively long term, low interest rates now, will find themselves in the Catbird Seat. My hands-on experience with this came in San Diego of course. Vacancy rates not measured in percentages but rather time — sometimes hours. Really. Owners insisted on month to month rental agreements so they could follow (read: adjust to) the upward trending rents. Folks who’d began with a ‘break even’ property found themselves awash in cash flow a year or two later.

They did this at rates of 7.5-9%! When rates almost doubled shortly thereafter, they found themselves with slowly rising expenses, a fixed cost for borrowed money, and very quickly rising rents. Gimme that combination any time. That combo is in your future, in my humble opinion, no matter what happens.

The key though is to act before the bull’s waste product hits the wildly spinning metal blades. Once the interest rates and/or prices get their death grip on what makes investment sense — your ship will have sailed — whether you’re on it or not.

There’s no ‘being late’ to this particular party. That great deal at 5-7% becomes an easy ‘I’ll pass’ at 8-10%. So if you’re late, the party will go on without you.

I’m very interested in what you have to say — including how long you think this current window of opportunity might last.

If you wanna talk about how you might take advantage yourself, gimme a buzz at 619 889-7100 or email me. Have a good one.

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16 comments to “Are We Coming To A Real Estate Investment Fork In The Road?”

Sean Carr on July 14th, 2009 at 8:21 pm said:

BawldGuy on July 14th, 2009 at 8:39 pm said:

  • What a perfect way to say it. Seems we’ve been standing by for quite awhile, doesn’t it?

Robert Coté on July 14th, 2009 at 9:12 pm said:

  • Bring back DDB depreciation and I’ll back up the truck. Two reasons. First the obvious tax advantages upfront when the investment is most venerable but second it signals that the government “gets it.” And that’s what keeps me in the cheap seats. As long as the Feds play Calvinball with the economy I see no reason to play.

BawldGuy on July 14th, 2009 at 9:30 pm said:

  • Not to mention those who think what’s happening isn’t from ignorance but from a well thought out plan. More than a tad bothersome.

Dennis Fassett on July 15th, 2009 at 5:55 am said:

  • Right on Jeff. The party is NOW. There are so many people sitting on the sidelines right now “waiting for a sign” it’s ridiculous.

    In the neighborhood that I’m buying my rentals in now, the prices came down to the point where they would cash flow as rentals about 14 months ago. This is the first time in history – ever – that these homes made sense as rentals.

    And still people sit waiting for some sign.

    This area happens to be in the best school district in the state, and when either interest rates bump up or the market correct upward, these homes will be out of reach again – for another several generations.

    The time to act is now. Pick an area with good fundamentals. And dive in. This party is going to end sooner than people think.

Robert Coté on July 15th, 2009 at 8:21 am said:

  • Dennis,
    The problem isn’t cash flow now so much as reliable cash flow going forward. The cash flow now analysis has a built in assumption that needs to be revisited; rent. Rents are declining. Plug in -3% pricing power and add an extra 5% vacancy factor and those Jan ‘08 deals don’t pencil out. In a market with oversupply as we have now there are many ways your ‘08 bargain can be undercut by other people in ‘09-’12. In SD and my VenCo there is a demographic of aging boomers with monster equity who very well might bring new rental supply to market while waiting for the resale market to turn. Their cost basis is such that market value investors can’t come close.

    Of course there are areas not California that Jeff might have in mind that don’t have any of those negatives where your comments resonate.

Dennis Fassett on July 15th, 2009 at 8:27 am said:

  • Robert –

    I’m not talking about California. I’m in Southeastern Michigan. My rents are rising and I still have a waiting list for renters even though I haven’t had a house available in several months. And just in case my breakeven rent is 20% lower than what I’m presently getting.

Chris Lengquist on July 15th, 2009 at 9:31 am said:

  • I tend to follow the logic of the former, as well. In fact, last evening I just had a consultation with a gentleman wondering if it’s time to get out of owning property. He cash flows now. So I drew out a scenario at the status quo and a scenario that made his head spin with inflation rising.

    Some say we’re so far below capacity that inflation will not kick in. I think that inflation is just waiting to happen. Retailers have been artifically holding down costs by shrinking sizes and cutting expenses to the bone. But you can only shrink so far and operate lean just so long.

BawldGuy on July 15th, 2009 at 10:54 am said:

  • Everyone — As Dennis points out, and Robert affirms, regions like CA aren’t included in this conversation.

    In TX some of the neighborhoods we’re strongly recommending have seen rents rise 4-6%, while vacancy rates have been shrinking — and they weren’t high before. There’s currently one of these developments with a tenant waiting list for Heaven’s sake. :)

    Those insisting on ‘waiting & watching’ don’t realize time is definitely not their friend at this point. This status quo can and will, I think, turn on a dime. Acting at that point will not be an option for the majority of investors.

    But those who locked in low fixed rates in the right locations will be smiling big time when the smoke finally clears. The difference is, they’ll also be sporting big grins on the way to clearer skies. :)

Robert Coté on July 15th, 2009 at 11:22 am said:

David Schmidt on July 15th, 2009 at 6:59 pm said:

  • I do enjoy a good debate! Unfortunately, macro level analysis of the real estate market is, in my humble opinion, nearly meaningless except to the macro economist. Real estate has been and always will be about location, location, location. As Dennis points out, in south east Michigan where he invests, the rents are going up. Demand is incredible. Even though there may be a lot of available homes on the market, many of them are vacant and not available to rent – they’re just sitting there. The ones that are available for rent are being scooped up at a tremendous clip.

    Keep in mind that even in south-east Michigan, you must know your areas. You could have a house on one side of the street that is a great investment and another house just two blocks to the other side of the street is not worth driving by – simply because of the area.

    So, speculate all you want, the only thing for sure is that the current status will not remain this way for long. Think of what it looked like 12 months ago in your own area. Now, consider what it might look like 12 months from today.

    I cannot speculate on 12 months from now, I’m working to take advantage of conditions on the ground today in my own neighborhood.

Tom Vanderwell on July 15th, 2009 at 8:59 pm said:

  • This will probably be one of the shortest comments I’ve ever made on a post.

    “You’ve got 12 to 18 months.”

BawldGuy on July 15th, 2009 at 9:35 pm said:

  • Hey Tom — I knew I’d smoke out one of my mortgage geniuses.

    People — Wanna read what a very credible and experienced lender has to say about current events? Tom and I don’t always agree, but if you’re gonna argue with him ya better have more than an unsupported opinion. Click on his name over his comment.

    You can thank me later. :)

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